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Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

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Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby pillar » 20 Jun 2015 4:13

I do not have a real professional vise but a small vise once used for scroll work.
Some big locks I cannot clamp up on the body. So I am clamping them on the shackle.
Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?
Most locks I practice with are ABUS spring loaded on both core and shackle.
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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby GWiens2001 » 20 Jun 2015 7:38

The only real drawback is damage to the shackle if you clamp too hard. Simple solution that I use is went to the local hardware store and got some aluminum angle sections and cut the length to the width of the vise jaws. Make two of them, and put one on each side. Then you can clamp the shackle, lock body, key, etcetera without damaging the item being clamped.

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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby tomasfuk » 20 Jun 2015 8:06

GWiens2001 wrote:The only real drawback is damage to the shackle if you clamp too hard
These aluminium inserts are a must for clamping the lock body, but padlock shackles use to be much harder than vice clamps, don't they?
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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby pillar » 20 Jun 2015 8:25

Well, the vise I use is really small. About 1-1,5 cm in lenght. So way smaller than the vise bosnianbill is using.
I thought about using some sort of rubber mat, would this be possible too?
Or does it give less feeling of some sort I am not aware of?
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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby l0ckcr4ck3r » 20 Jun 2015 10:45

Pillar, your gut is telling you something here and you are correct about less feedback. Detecting the type and amount of feedback/counter rotation is harder if you are just holding the shackle because of the play between the shackle and the rest of the padlock. You will get much clearer feedback from the padlock if you put body in the vise. If you are not worried about marring the padlock slightly, just clamp it straight in the jaws... you will hear pins set way better than if you put some rubber in-between.
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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby GWiens2001 » 20 Jun 2015 15:16

pillar wrote:Well, the vise I use is really small. About 1-1,5 cm in lenght. So way smaller than the vise bosnianbill is using.
I thought about using some sort of rubber mat, would this be possible too?
Or does it give less feeling of some sort I am not aware of?


Your vise is only about 1,5 cm in length? Less than the width of my smallest finger? What is it used for? Making jewelry?

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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby pillar » 21 Jun 2015 4:32

correction: it is 2.2 cm, the length of the vise' clamps. (or braces? how is that called?)

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Re: Is there a major drawback to clamping the shackle?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 22 Jun 2015 12:56

pillar wrote:correction: it is 2.2 cm, the length of the vise' clamps. (or braces? how is that called?)

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I think those are called jaws.
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