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Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

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Re: Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

Postby gumptrick » 27 Jun 2017 9:01

Squelchtone wrote:hope this helps, and you should totally buy Graham's book! https://www.amazon.com/High-Security-Me ... 001AQB31S/
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Thanks a lot. That makes perfect sense, really. I couldn't imagine that Keso would allow another lock company to use the same brand name unless there was some kind of licensing or other sort of legal partnership involved. Otherwise it would seem like a lightning rod for lawsuits!

Though I suppose there might still be differences in quality depending on where exactly the locks were made?

Thanks also for mentioning that book. I will certainly be purchasing a copy.
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Re: Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

Postby greengrowlocks » 27 Jun 2017 13:21

Thanks for the info Gordon and Squelch. I tried to find the other KESO locks after you commented and was led to the Assa Abloy site where under KESO Mechanics they had three current offerings of KESO locks all patented until 2023. These include KESO 2500FP, KESO 4000S and KESO 3000FP. There are other older models as well. All of these as you mentioned already are very different from the Sargent Keso.
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Re: Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

Postby gumptrick » 28 Jun 2017 12:47

greengrowlocks wrote:Thanks for the info Gordon and Squelch. I tried to find the other KESO locks after you commented and was led to the Assa Abloy site where under KESO Mechanics they had three current offerings of KESO locks all patented until 2023. These include KESO 2500FP, KESO 4000S and KESO 3000FP. There are other older models as well. All of these as you mentioned already are very different from the Sargent Keso.



So it seems that the Sargent Keso is the same original design from the 1960's whereas KESO proper has moved on from that and manufactures newer designs?
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Re: Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

Postby greengrowlocks » 28 Jun 2017 17:31

gumptrick wrote:
So it seems that the Sargent Keso is the same original design from the 1960's whereas KESO proper has moved on from that and manufactures newer designs?


I think that's the case. I'm guessing after Assa acquired them in 2001 they started making different designs. Since your post I was able to find a KESO 2000S padlock to pick at but it probably wont arrive for a couple weeks.
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Re: Recommended practice locks for learning dimple picking

Postby greyman » 21 Jul 2017 0:39

Squelchtone wrote:gumptrick: based on the writings of Graham Pulford, our very own forum member Greyman,
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hope this helps, and you should totally buy Graham's book! https://www.amazon.com/High-Security-Me ... 001AQB31S/
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Wow, thanks Squelchtone. I really appreciate the plug. I am blushing! :oops:

Off topic: BTW, I have a query in the "Lock Picks" forum just now under the heading "Legal to own lockpicks in Australia? Need accurate answer". You'll see what it's about. The laws are changing fast in Australia, like elsewhere, it's impossible to keep track of our dwindling civil rights. Hence the question.
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