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Beginner looking for help

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Beginner looking for help

Postby ace1627 » 25 Mar 2004 1:09

Hi, I have been looking at lockpicking as a hobby for quite sometime now but have never taken the initiative to start. I would like to learn 3 forms of lockpicking. I would like to learn how to pick car locks, padlocks, and regular house locks. What are the best and least expensive tools i can get for those 3 locks. Also where is the cheapest place to buy them. Thank you so much. I am looking forward to this new hobby.
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Postby CitySpider » 25 Mar 2004 1:17

Best and least expensive are kind of mutually exclusive. Which is more important to you?
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Postby i_want_to_pick » 25 Mar 2004 1:27

Check this link: http:

//www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=1744

viewtopic.php?t=1423

These posts should have the answers.

Also if you want to try making your own, go to this link and download the video on making picks:
viewtopic.php?t=1095 (there is a specific time frame you can get it from read the first post)
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Postby i_want_to_pick » 25 Mar 2004 1:32

this is the link to the Faqs topic, I messed up the link in my post above, i'm up too late. :roll:
viewtopic.php?t=1744

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Postby plot » 25 Mar 2004 4:12

Good news, all these of those locks use the same principals, and you can use basically the same picks for all 3.

Goto this thread: viewtopic.php?t=588 and find the link in there to the "MIT Guide", read the guide, read it again. This will tell you everything you need to know about picking houselocks and padlocks. The same knowledge can be used to pick car locks too as they are basically the same, and are picked the same. Also, goto www.howstuffworks.com and find there section on lockpicking. It does an excellent job in explaining how locks work.

Search through this site and read some of the posts etc. and you will learn a LOT. If your looking for information, you're definatly looking in the right place... now keep looking through it and you'll learn more and more and more...

As for picks, you can make your own if you have a grinder or a dremel pretty easily, again, search this site and you find many detailed threads (and even video's!), on how to create your own lockpicks, what materials to use, etc...

Or, if you wish to purchase a set of lockpicks online, you can visit this thread (which has already been mentioned): viewtopic.php?t=1423 for links to different online retailors, and suggestions of what to get as a newbie starting out. If you get a set of southord lockpicks (which is usually recommended for beginners, great picks and fairly well priced), then i recommend you get an MPSX set, instead of the less expensive PSX set... as the MPSX set has reinforced handles and are much more comfortable, trust me, it's worth it.
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Postby Chucklz » 25 Mar 2004 16:06

If you want to buy a set, I suggest www.lockpickshop.com Amazing customer service. Use lp101 as your coupon code, and you get 10% off.
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Postby lophilip » 14 Apr 2004 18:25

If you can pick a car lock I would consider you an exceptionally good lock picker.
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Postby Mad Mick » 14 Apr 2004 18:46

Picking a car lock is not really that difficult. It's an applied process, from an understanding of lock mechanics and practice. Just the same as picking another high security lock - learn on the job. I'm not saying that picking car locks is easy, but when you fully understand the concept of a particular lock, the visualisation skills kick in and you 'see what you feel'.

Many of us 'suck' at picking vehicle locks and reach for the bypass tools first. Yep, I'm guilty until proven guilty, then guilty all over again. Just like the Russian judicial system.......(Sorry to any Russians).
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Postby technik » 14 Apr 2004 20:51

remeber car locks are wafers, and wafers are GENERALLY much easier to pick than pin tumbler locks
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Postby i_want_to_pick » 14 Apr 2004 21:03

technik wrote:remeber car locks are wafers, and wafers are GENERALLY much easier to pick than pin tumbler locks
But wafers are also more fragile, and care must be taken, so as not to mess them up.
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Postby CitySpider » 14 Apr 2004 22:02

Has anyone ever ACTUALLY messed up a wafer? The force required to pick a lock is absolutely miniscule, and unless you're hooking behind one and yanking on it, I can't imagine that they're going to break on you.
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Postby Chucklz » 14 Apr 2004 22:06

I think its just more of a caution we all spread to the newbies. Think about it, if you've never picked a lcok before, it could be fairly easy to apply way too much force and possibly bend a wafer. I learned on the "wrong" sequence for this to happen to me, ie pin tumblers first, then wafer locks.
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Postby plot » 15 Apr 2004 2:24

CitySpider wrote:Has anyone ever ACTUALLY messed up a wafer? The force required to pick a lock is absolutely miniscule, and unless you're hooking behind one and yanking on it, I can't imagine that they're going to break on you.


ive seen a few posts on here about the lock not working after using autojigglers.... does that count?
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Postby i_want_to_pick » 15 Apr 2004 13:49

[quote="plot"]ive seen a few posts on here about the lock not working after using autojigglers.... does that count?[quote]


I would think that counts.

There was even one where a guy was asking for help because the car lock cylinder came right out when he picked it. That I would also consider messed up because he couldn't get it back in. I think he eventually got it in after he got some helpfull replies here though.

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Postby CitySpider » 15 Apr 2004 18:27

I'd say no, but then again, I tell people not to use those things.

I'd also say no to the next one because I have a very hard time believing that that was his fault. If it was an ICore lock and he picked it to the removal line, then I'd consider that a problem, but as far as I know, there's no such thing as an ICore car lock.
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