MARKS Cylinders

[BERK]

I'm having a hard time picking MARKS cylinders. I assume they use security pins, but does anyone know exactly what's making them difficult to pick?

[Wolfe]

I havnt a clue as what your exactly doing. A little more information and i might be able to help you.

[Eyes_Only]

http://www.marksusa.com/. This sucker uses side bars as a secondary locking device, probably uses another row of finger pins along side of the standard pin tumbler system. This lock I assume from reading the specs is not for those new to the lockpicking hobby, wayyyyy too advanced.

[Shrub]

And as such discussion of such is for the advanced sections only, thanks,

[zeke79]

It is hard to tell what you are running into since marks makes such a wide range of cylinders. They make cylinders in most of the common keyways and the cylinders I have ran across seem to have good tolerances. As mentioned above they do have a high security lock which seems to be a rebadged scorpion cx5 which is a rebadged scanlock with some improvements. Scanlock fyi went belly up some time ago.

[Shrub]

Ah in that case...
I was airing on the side of caution as i dont know the lock but fair enough bring on some pics and more details,

[BERK]

I can't give any more information then I've been running into MARKS mortise cylinders lately that I just can't pick, manually or electrically. It's frustrating when five people are standing around waiting for me to defeat a lock and I just can't get it. After five minutes I just resort to either drilling or wrenching them off, but I feel like I failed if I can't pick it cleanly. If in fact they do use sidebars, I'm unfamiliar with techniques to defeat them. If this thread does fall into the advanced catagory then lock it, at least then I'll know not to waste my time and get the drill working straight off.

[zeke79]

Like I said before, the marks company makes locks in many standard keyways. It is unlikely that you are running into their high security models but that is still possible.

Personally, I would lubricate the lock with locksaver and run a pick in and out a couple times. Then start picking as normal. This really helps on locks that are being a pain.