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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

Postby wry415 » 12 Feb 2012 12:34

I spent some time researching this question ... Schlage's own
marketing literature was of no help, and I wasn't able to find the
answer within any of the profession-oriented literature either. I
could just call a locksmith, but it's a Sunday morning and so
that's not the most viable option.

Do the BE and FE series keyless-entry locks (cylindrical locksets and
deadbolts, respectively) use the crappy F-series-style cylinders, or a
higher-quality standard Schlage cylinder?

Can these locks be retrofitted with 6-pin cylinders (specifically,
conventional Primus or Everest C or D KIK-type, or other
manufacturers' KIK cylinders, such as Medeco's)? (For clarification,
I doubt I'd ever retrofit any residential-grade lockset with a Medeco
cylinder ... I ask out of sheer idle curiosity).

The major appeal of Schlage's keyless-entry locks are that they don't
require any modification to the door (for through-bolting, wiring,
etc.) Of course there are options such as Simplex mechanical combo
locks and any number of electronic analogues, but most I've seen
require at least a little bit of door modification. This would be
used in a rental-unit situation, and so door modification wouldn't be
an option.

Thanks, kids!
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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

Postby Evan » 12 Feb 2012 13:20

@wry415:

I don't know which websites you were looking on but there was a very nice video on the Schlage website about how to disassemble the BE deadbolt lock to access the cylinder for rekeying...

It looked like the typical Schlage better quality cylinder but it is clearly only a 5-pin size cylinder and given how the keyed override function operates it looks as if the slightly longer 6-pin cylinder might not fit, but that is a question for Schlage tech support...

Besides going into a "rental unit" what specific application were you trying to accomplish ?

-- Allowing for your tenants to re-enter after being locked out without calling you ?
-- Allowing for entry to all units by pin code rather than master key ?

Given how clunky the operation of the keyed override cylinder is, it would be better to use the AD series lockset for PIN only access with keyed override, rather than the BE residential grade units...

The tenant access after a lockout can be dealt with by installing a Supra keysafe somewhere near the door for each unit so the tenant can be given the code to access the keys if they are locked out...

Please explain what you are trying to do more clearly other than attempting to adapt a commercial cylinder into a residential lock, which may or may not be possible...

~~ Evan
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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

Postby cledry » 12 Feb 2012 19:03

The 6 pin cylinders do not fit.
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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

Postby cledry » 12 Feb 2012 19:07

If you have several doors and want more security you can disconnect the key override feature from the door you are using a keypad on and use a conventional deadbolt with a high security cylinder on another door for your override.
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Re: Schlage FE and BE keypad locksets

Postby shadow11612 » 13 Feb 2012 10:08

wry415 wrote:Can these locks be retrofitted with 6-pin cylinders (specifically, conventional Primus or Everest C or D KIK-type, or other
manufacturers' KIK cylinders, such as Medeco's)? (For clarification,
I doubt I'd ever retrofit any residential-grade lockset with a Medeco
cylinder ... I ask out of sheer idle curiosity).


Yes these locks can be retrofitted with other cylinders. These would be 5 Pin cylinders. You would have to find out which Schlage cylinder this is, or which standard lock set uses this cylinder. I am sure that the tailpiece would be specific to the FE/BE locks, but these could be removed from the replaced cylinders. Primus and Everest are 6 pin cylinders, so they would not have a replacement. But Medeco does offer 5 pin cylinders for Schlage and other manufacturer's products.
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