Why so many picks?

by **bajawoojie** » 20 Sep 2005 20:54

Well i see all these people with their sets, with like 50 different picks, and 20 tension wrenches? doesnt make any sense to me. Why so many?

by **Buggs41** » 20 Sep 2005 21:00

Every lock is different. A tool that works on one, might not work on the other. You can't remove a phillips head screw with a hammer.

by **Chrispy** » 20 Sep 2005 21:03

The right tool for the right job.

Buggs41 wrote:You can't remove a phillips head screw with a hammer.

But when your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Right HHCEO? :wink:

by **Ben WV** » 20 Sep 2005 21:14

I'm sure that some would object, but it's just a lot of filler junk to drive up the price of the set. If they offer a package that has 4x as many picks and costs 4x as much, it makes people believe that they're missing out on something by not buying it. Ironically, what you really need most (an assortment of graduated hooks) is the one thing these sets don't have.

FYI: See how many ding-bat rakes you can find in the falle safe kit. :lol:

by **wtf|pickproof?** » 20 Sep 2005 21:20

Don't mind them, they are all tool fetishists! (and so am I :wink:

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You should be able to open most locks with a standard 9-12 pice set of picks. That said, some more picks are comfortable in special situations.

by **Peter Martin** » 20 Sep 2005 21:22

I agree - much of what you get in a set is filler... picks you won't use. I suggest to everyone interested to buy the small tyro set of 13 HPC picks. Then if they think they need anything else, make it yourself.

When the US Army DAME course was two weeks long, everyone made their own picks after seeing and using the few school tools.

by **Chucklz** » 20 Sep 2005 21:26

Whoah there..... DAME course..... tis story time.

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 20 Sep 2005 21:43

Chrispy wrote:The right tool for the right job.

Buggs41 wrote:You can't remove a phillips head screw with a hammer.

But when your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Right HHCEO?

i need to modify that to "Hammer Drill"

Should i change that sig?Am i setting a bad example?

by **Chucklz** » 20 Sep 2005 22:02

I think you could remove most anything with a good hammer drill.

by **skold** » 21 Sep 2005 3:57

The reasons people have so many picks:

a- They are lacking lady love so they buy picks to keep the lonlyness to a low.
b- It makes them feel special.

I have about 80 different picks and a few tension tools.. i use about 20 of them.

by **Chrispy** » 21 Sep 2005 4:05

skold wrote:The reasons people have so many picks:

a- They are lacking lady love so they buy picks to keep the lonlyness to a low.

Speak for yourself there buddy.

skold wrote:b- It makes them feel special.

Meh, can't argue with that. :wink:

by **Peter Martin** » 21 Sep 2005 9:33

Don't be impressed by the DAME course. It was taught at Ft Huachuca and part of the Physical Security curriculum in 1987 for the intelligence officers' course. It was very short compared to the structured class it is today (under Don Shiles at Ft Meade). DAME was 1/2 days, every day for a week... so only about 20 hours, although the instructors made themselves available after-hours for consulting.

The course is a very basic introduction to locks and picking. Just like is recommended here, after theory class, everyone started with a lock that has one pin, wow, it opened! Then, two pins.

by **SFGOON** » 21 Sep 2005 13:00

The DAME course, like all courses in the Army, is ominicky and not designed to be hard, it is designed to pass people who need to pass it. SF teaches locksmithing as a "special subject," much like horseback riding or conducting trains.

by **n2oah** » 21 Sep 2005 15:13

Ben WV wrote:FYI: See how many ding-bat rakes you can find in the falle safe kit.

I'm not sure what a ding-bat rake is, but the Falle set has 3 sawtooth rakes.

by **vector40** » 21 Sep 2005 17:02

I was under the impression that the DAME course discusses a fair amount of bypass material.

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