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Tweezers Used in Rekeying Pin Tumbler Locks

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Tweezers Used in Rekeying Pin Tumbler Locks

Postby dark_sanctuary » 14 Sep 2005 20:30

Has anyone used the HPC "Pin Tumbler Tweezers with Pin Pushing Attachment" described in the below url? I found this product after seeing it in the LSS+ first cd.
http://www.hpcworld.com/Tools/t_tpt5.htm

I had a quote from http://www.lockpicks.com for about $21 through special order. Is this a reasonable amount for such a product? I know that the DIY people of the forum could easily replicate such a product by adding the small bent rod to a pair of regular pin tweezers.

Also, are there any recommendations/preferences as to choosing this HPC product versus a reverse action pair of tweezers like the ones that lockpicks.com sells for around $17?
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Postby Chucklz » 14 Sep 2005 20:39

I never thought I would even consider such a device. I've always done bottom pins with my fingers. For top pins, I've tried some offset forceps (tweezers) and a host of fancy surgical gear. Nothing really impressed me, it all was still a pain. However, I have considered making a follower with an angled front section, which would push the top in in as you worked along.
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Postby n2oah » 14 Sep 2005 20:49

I am lazy and don't use a follower. I also don't want to drop $10 on one either. I manually put the driver pins in with a tweezers then press them down and slide the plug in. Trust me, after doing this 5 times, you'll be ready to pull your hair out.
I have currently hit a brick wall with repinning. I have a Mul-t-Lock 7x7 cylinder that is keyed on both sides. I have taken one plug out and I can't figure out how to get it back in with any methods I know of. Can someone help?
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Postby vector40 » 14 Sep 2005 20:53

It does seem like a pretty clever idea, but I've gotten good enough with a follower and a flat piece of metal (usually just an SO tension wrench) that I wouldn't bother. Up to you.
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Postby Chrispy » 14 Sep 2005 21:07

A crayon wrapped in electrical tape = follower
A pair of tweezers from the missus' makeup bag = pin tweezers.
A lot of patience and concentration = necessity :wink:
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Postby zeke79 » 14 Sep 2005 21:21

A dowel rod is good enough for a follower. An actual follower is even better, especially when loading top pins. I never would have purchased a set of pinning twezers until I used a set, now I would not go without them. I am sure you could make a set easily enough with a small round file and save a few bucks, but either way they are nice.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 16 Sep 2005 9:51

In my experience just about any tweezer will work fine in reinstalling the top drivers. All that is necessary is to place the driver pin half way into the pin chamber and then hold it in place by binding it with the plug follower to keep it from flying back out. You can then push the pin back in with the tweezer while applying the binding pressure.
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Postby qwerty125 » 23 Sep 2005 10:46

wow .. they actually have tools that repin? I always did it manually.. Of course at the time I had no choice.. After turning a lock with a key the whole entire plug came out and all the pins went flying lol. It took me a while to find the best possible way to repin it and so far my method works for me. I just take the end tip of my torque wrench set the pin and push down, while doing this I push in the plug and secure the pin.. then i keep repeating that process till I have all the pins down.
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Postby Ben WV » 23 Sep 2005 11:46

Hmm, crayon w/ electrical tape sounds like a real good idea. 8)
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Postby Chrispy » 23 Sep 2005 21:02

Ben WV wrote:Hmm, crayon w/ electrical tape sounds like a real good idea. 8)

Follower not big enough? Add more tape. 8)
Follower to big? Remove some tape. 8)
Explaining to the little one that his crayons are being used for a very important task..... slightly harder... :?

*I'm starting to sound like a freakin' Visa ad. :roll: *
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