Who is watching us?

by **SFGOON** » 24 Sep 2005 19:28

Let's make that a bit more fair. Encryption is based off of a number that is a prime times a prime. It makes a unique number that is very hard to break down or "factor out." i.e. 21 = 7 x 3 and nothing else in the universe can create the number 21. If you had an eight digit prime times a fifteen digit prime, factoring it out would be extremely difficult, but once that has been achieved, the entire code is ruined.

NSA scientists are currently applying 11-dimensional "Membrane or M-theory" mathmatics (google it!) to break down these numbers using imaginary primes. (An "I" or Imaginary number has been used in math for many years, such as the square root of -2, which can't exist, yet has many applications in electrical engineering.) Using the algorythms extracted form the 11 dimensional universe (as opposed to 3D,) makes computing even the most enormous primes a trivial matter. Compare it to picking a normal lock to one that's cut away - encryption is nothing more than "security through obscurity" using prime numbers - and it won't last...

by **Varjeal** » 24 Sep 2005 19:53

...and I can't believe y'all forgot the Red Hat Club. tsk, tsk, tsk..... :wink:

by **devildog** » 24 Sep 2005 20:03

FBI CIA NSA NRO BATFE DEA DOD USSS USMS DSS DIA BMDO USACID DARPA DOE DHS DOJ DTRA FINCEN GSA INL MSEL NACIC NCIS NDIC NRC SIES USNCB WHMO.....that should just about do it.

Those are all the ones in the U.S. that I think *might* be interested in some form or another, at some point, in some of the stuff we have on here.

Ok, 'goon, you're up. Can ya beat me????

(oh, and anyone who can ID all those gets a cookie)

Oh, and not to ignore your post or anything, goon, but I'm just REALLY...mathematically disinclined...So I have no idea what you're saying :oops:

by **chopitup** » 24 Sep 2005 20:16

devildog wrote:(oh, and anyone who can ID all those gets a cookie)

FBI- Federal Bureau of Investigation
CIA- Central Intelligence Agency
NSA- National Security Agency
NRO- National Reconnaissance Office
BATFE- Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives
DEA- Drug Enforcement Administration
DOD- Department of Defense
USSS- United States Secret Service
USMS- United States Marshals Service
DSS- Defense Security Service
DIA- Defense Intelligence Agency
BMDO- Ballistic Missile Defense Operations
USACID- US Army Criminal Investigation Division
DARPA- Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency
DOE- Department Of Energy
DHS- Department of Homeland Security
DOJ- Department Of Justice
DTRA- Defense Threat Reduction Agency
FINCEN- Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
GSA- Girl Scouts of America (or General Services Administration)
INL- Idaho National Laboratory
MSEL- Materials Science and Engineering Laboratory
NACIC- National Counterintelligence Center
NCIS- Naval Criminal Investigative Service/National Criminal Intelligence Service
NDIC- National Drug Intelligence Center
NRC- Nuclear Regulatory Commission
SIES- Office of Strategic Industries & Economic Security
USNCB- United States National Central Bureau (INTERPOL)
WHMO- White House Military Office

Cookie please?

by **devildog** » 24 Sep 2005 21:23

HOLY CRAP, there, chops. What the h3ll did you do, run all those through some uber-abbreviation-translator thingy you found?! jjeeeezz....WHAT is wrong with you?

I had to go to a website to get all that crap, so please tell me you didn't just know it off the top of your head... :arrow:

http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/subjectareas/gov/docs_abbrev.html

by **Chrispy** » 24 Sep 2005 22:14

GIVE THE MAN A COOKIE!! :lol:

We forgot MI5....

by **TOWCH** » 24 Sep 2005 22:37

SFGOON wrote:Let's make that a bit more fair. Encryption is based off of a number that is a prime times a prime. It makes a unique number that is very hard to break down or "factor out." i.e. 21 = 7 x 3 and nothing else in the universe can create the number 21. If you had an eight digit prime times a fifteen digit prime, factoring it out would be extremely difficult, but once that has been achieved, the entire code is ruined.

NSA scientists are currently applying 11-dimensional "Membrane or M-theory" mathmatics (google it!) to break down these numbers using imaginary primes. (An "I" or Imaginary number has been used in math for many years, such as the square root of -2, which can't exist, yet has many applications in electrical engineering.) Using the algorythms extracted form the 11 dimensional universe (as opposed to 3D,) makes computing even the most enormous primes a trivial matter. Compare it to picking a normal lock to one that's cut away - encryption is nothing more than "security through obscurity" using prime numbers - and it won't last...

Thank you. I've never had a very good understanding of encryption. That helped alot.

by **SFGOON** » 24 Sep 2005 23:47

Just thought I'd clear that one up TOWCH

Devildog forgot the CAG - I defy any one of you to tell me who these guys are.

And what is this mysterious "Army of Northern Virginia?"

by **devildog** » 24 Sep 2005 23:52

Civil Affairs Group? huH???

by **sivlogkart** » 25 Sep 2005 0:07

One interesting thing to note, is that if you look at the ratio of replies to views for "Who is watching us?" it is on the low side. So the people who are watching us are not interested in us telling them why we think they are. I guess that they already know why ... worrying ... .

KJ

by **Chrispy** » 25 Sep 2005 0:15

Lol, good point.

*Psst, sig's a bit too big...* :wink:

by **SFGOON** » 25 Sep 2005 0:26

You're on thin ice Devildog, I was civil affairs when I was a Pvt... I know how you meat eaters like to knock those little guys....

And even if I did tell you that it was the Combat Application Group, you wouldn't be able to pinpoint that one either.

And as far as the Army of Northern Virginia is concerned.....

by **Chrispy** » 25 Sep 2005 0:40

Point is, why would the, Combat Application Group, be watching us anyway? Do we require applied combat? :wink:

And the Army of Northen Virginia is a redneck militia. At least that's what devildog told me....

by **devildog** » 25 Sep 2005 1:41

Army of North Vietnam, NVA, regulars etc. :wink:

(got that one as soon as I made an acronym out of it and saw N, V, and A in there).

You're not going to have Combat Applied to us, are you goon? We're scared now--like skinny little sheep all huddled together shaking and 'baa'ing.

Seriously though...what is it? I'm guessing Google isn't going to help out on that one, so I guess what I'm asking is...throw the biggest tastiest bone you can without, well you know, saying anything you can't.

Ok, I'll see if I can't throw something a little harder now:

SFOD-D
Dev Group
160th SOAR
AFSOC, Pavelows, etc.
CIA SOG (NOT the spooks, i.e. NOC CO's)
Yankee White
Blue Light (obscure SOF history--hasn't been around for...a while)
Applegate, Fairbairn, Sykes, OSS
Majestic (WWII buffs jump in)

God, I could've come up with so much more 6 years ago or so when I was in highschool and deadset on being a SEAL--I could've told you more about the SEAL's back then than just about anyone other than, well, a SEAL....

Ok, anyways, *devildog stands up, places hands on hips, and thrusts pelvis back and forth authoritatively* If YOU think you know more cool, manly, military and secret squirrel stuff than US then step up and speak now or forever hold yer peace, maggot!!

by **chopitup** » 25 Sep 2005 3:40

devildog wrote:Ok, I'll see if I can't throw something a little harder now:

SFOD-D
Dev Group
160th SOAR
AFSOC, Pavelows, etc.
CIA SOG (NOT the spooks, i.e. NOC CO's)
Yankee White
Blue Light (obscure SOF history--hasn't been around for...a while)
Applegate, Fairbairn, Sykes, OSS
Majestic (WWII buffs jump in)

SFOD-D: 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta (US Army)
Dev Group or DEVGRU: Naval Special Warfare Development Group
160th SOAR: 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment
AFSOC: Air Force Special Operations Command
Pavelow: Pave Low is a USAF version of the CH-53 Super Stallion helicopter
CIA SOG: (CIA) Special Operations Group, wet-ops

Yankee White: security clearance given in the United States for personnel working with the President. Obtaining such clearance requires, in part, a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) by the Department of Defense. Contrary to popular lore, the Yankee White clearance given to personnel who work directly with the President is not a classification, but rather a type of background check.

Blue Light: Part of the 5th Special Forces Group that existed into the early 1980s. According to Col. Charles Beckwith's memoirs, this counter-terrorist group was formed by U.S. Army Special Forces leadership who disagreed with or felt politically threatened by Beckwith's Delta Force. The unit was supposedly disbanded when Delta went operational; rumored to still exist under same name or covert black ops name.

Applegate: Colonel Rex Applegate (1914-1998) worked in the Office of Strategic Services where he trained allied special forces in close-quarter combat during World War II. In 1943 he wrote Kill or Get Killed, still considered the classic textbook of Western-style hand-to-hand combat. The updated 1976 edition of Kill or Get Killed was also published by the US Marine Corps as Fleet Marine Force Reference Publication 12-80.

Fairbairn: William Ewart Fairbairn (1885-1960) was a soldier, police officer, and exponent of hand-to-hand combat methods for the Shanghai police between the World Wars, and allied special forces in World War II. He is known for designing the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife which was used by British Special Forces in World War II, and for his textbook Scientific Self-Defence.

Sykes: Eric Anthony Sykes, also worked on designing knife mentioned above.
OSS: Office of Strategic Services
Majestic: an alternate plan for the intended Allied invasion of the southernmost Japanese home island of Kyushu. It was rejected in favor of Olympic, but elements of Majestic were incorporated into deception plans such as Pastel.

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