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Postby SFGOON » 24 Sep 2005 11:50

WOW! :shock:

Still pickable though :P
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Postby lockedin » 25 Sep 2005 0:28

In The Complete Book of Locks and Locksmithing by Bill Phillips (5th edition), they have a picture of a Folger Adam Lock called the Maxi-Mogul with three different shear lines. Two side by side on the top, and one coming from the side at an angle. It looks very difficult to manipulate to say the least...
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Postby lockedin » 25 Sep 2005 0:44

Here's a pic:
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Postby sivlogkart » 25 Sep 2005 2:17

A related question

I once visited a cell in the local police station (but not as a criminal I should add!!), and was amazed to see that there was a keyhole on each side of the door. Why would such a door be made with a keyhole on the inside of the door? When could that ever be needed?

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Postby oldlock » 25 Sep 2005 3:06

Access doors to the cell blocks are usually keyed both sides, but the cells themselves are not, keyed on the outside only and slam action locking.

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Postby sivlogkart » 25 Sep 2005 3:17

That is clearly how one would expect it to be, but in the police cell it was not the case. However note that this was not a prison but a cell in a local police station, so may not have the same security standards. It certainly amazed me.

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Postby oldlock » 25 Sep 2005 3:58

Depends if it was a purpose built cell, in a purpose built police station, in such cases 99 % of stations will be fitted with proper cell locks. The problems occur when other buildings / rooms are converted into cells - then anything is possible, which wrong locks specified and installed by contractors.

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Postby sivlogkart » 25 Sep 2005 4:03

It was a purpose built police station, but I could well imagine that they increased the number of cells or something. That could well be the reason for it. Thanks.

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Postby Chrispy » 25 Sep 2005 4:20

If the officer needs to enter the cell for any reason, he can't leave the door unlocked. That's why there is a keyhole on both sides.
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Really?

Postby sivlogkart » 25 Sep 2005 4:22

Is that really so? I do not think I would want to be in a closed cell with a criminal who knew that I had the key on me.

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Postby Chrispy » 25 Sep 2005 4:24

The baton, handcuffs and capsicum spray doens't give you confidence? No Glock however...
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Postby oldlock » 25 Sep 2005 4:52

Chrispy wrote:If the officer needs to enter the cell for any reason, he can't leave the door unlocked. That's why there is a keyhole on both sides.


No - it does not work like that.

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Postby Chrispy » 25 Sep 2005 4:55

And..... come on.... you can't just leave it like that..... :D Tell us!
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Thanks

Postby sivlogkart » 25 Sep 2005 4:55

Thanks!

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Postby skold » 25 Sep 2005 4:57

oldlock wrote:Access doors to the cell blocks are usually keyed both sides, but the cells themselves are not, keyed on the outside only and slam action locking.

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