Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Bump Keys

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Bump Keys

Postby chrisjc33 » 4 Oct 2005 17:30

what do you all think about 999/bump keys?
I had ago on a yale rim cyl and a few asec euros with no luck
chrisjc33
 
Posts: 135
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 3:42
Location: Australia

Postby Fah_Cue » 4 Oct 2005 18:18

post a pic of the key
Image
Fah_Cue
 
Posts: 305
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 5:59
Location: Sydney, Australia

Postby chrisjc33 » 5 Oct 2005 2:41

Sorry i don't know how.
chrisjc33
 
Posts: 135
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 3:42
Location: Australia

Postby Fah_Cue » 5 Oct 2005 2:43

do u have a webcam or a digital cam?
Image
Fah_Cue
 
Posts: 305
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 5:59
Location: Sydney, Australia

Postby Chrispy » 5 Oct 2005 2:44

Host the photo on a file server (photobucket, whatever) and then use the img tags to post it. eg.

[ img ] http://www.photobucket/chrisjc33/photoname.jpg [ /img ]

without any spaces in it. :)
Image
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
Chrispy
 
Posts: 3569
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 15:49
Location: GC, QLD

Postby chrisjc33 » 5 Oct 2005 4:07

This is the home made 999 key Image

I also had one machine coded to 99999(yale key) but still no luck
chrisjc33
 
Posts: 135
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 3:42
Location: Australia

Postby jdeacon » 5 Oct 2005 4:13

I got a set of Yale bump keys from Souber, to try them out. But they said don't use directly (the bumping eventually wears out the leading face), get a good copy made (double-shoulder, original or steel blank) and use those.

Now I don't have and am not likely to have a key cutting machine. And all the key cutters I've tried around here seem to be pretty sloppy.

I've wondered if I can jury-rig a Dremel to copy a key; but I very much doubt it. When I get a moment, I'll probably knuckle down to it and file myself some good copies.
John
jdeacon
 
Posts: 48
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 2:32
Location: South London

Postby Chrispy » 5 Oct 2005 4:37

Just don't put the spaces in. :)
Image
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
Chrispy
 
Posts: 3569
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 15:49
Location: GC, QLD

Postby Shrub » 5 Oct 2005 5:51

Looks like youve taken too much material off the shoulder and tip but it could just be the way your hitting it, ive not had much success but plan on trying it again after reading raimondos guide, it appears its all in how you hit it, i was useing a soft mallet but make a proper tomohawk and get the technique down.
Shrub
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 11576
Joined: 23 May 2005 4:03
Location: uk

Postby chrisjc33 » 5 Oct 2005 11:31

I have taken about 0.5-0.8mm off the shoulder and tip but can only set 3 pins at most. Good job there not 6 pins
i have even tried a little song(hit me with your tomohawk hit me hit me hit me slowly hit me quick.........)sorry about that
chrisjc33
 
Posts: 135
Joined: 12 Sep 2005 3:42
Location: Australia

Postby Shrub » 5 Oct 2005 15:20

Sorry it just looked like youve taken too much off, those measurements sound fine,

Ive not gone into it properly yet so im sorry but thats my knowledge on them gone now, it could be the wrong tension because your tune must certainly work although if it was me by the end of the tune each hit would be getting harder and hared :lol: :twisted:
Shrub
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 11576
Joined: 23 May 2005 4:03
Location: uk

Postby gazzaull25 » 6 Oct 2005 11:37

ive had sum luck with bump keys but not a great deal,especialy the cylinders with spool pins etc any ideas on how to bump them???
gazzaull25
 
Posts: 52
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 12:17
Location: uk hull

Postby roemer » 13 Oct 2005 15:24

to open a lock with a bump-key gives a great feeling, more than picking.
The speed is mystrious :twisted:
greetings
prof. Kwel
roemer
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 15:06
Location: Haarlem, netherlands

Postby roemer » 13 Oct 2005 15:46

The key is softer than the lock, so if your key is for the eye not oke bump it several times hard.
After this bump not too hard and push/turn the key very soft.
You must hear the pins clicking.
At this moment I've problems with opening a cisa lock with the bump method. easy is the nemef, evva , corbin cilinders ect.( locks from the netherlands)
greetings
prof. Kwel
roemer
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 15:06
Location: Haarlem, netherlands

Bump key

Postby Big Dave » 1 Jan 2006 7:53

I made a 999 yale bumper in about 15 minutes using a small file from the pound shop. I attempted to use on a standard yale 5 pin door lock and nearly shit my pants when it opened with 3 strikes from a wooden spoon. The thoery of its great but feel its down to luck more than anything as you could sit there wacking the bloody thing for ages which only ends up denting the lock face its self. Must say the feeling of doing it is fantastic.
Big Dave
 
Posts: 10
Joined: 1 Jan 2006 7:07
Location: Essex

Next

Return to European Locks, Picks and Hardware

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests