rake key?

[iateshaggy]

would it be possible to take a blank key, file it down like a bump key but only have one dimond on the end and use it to rake a lock open while applying tension with the key?

[ThE_MasteR]

It could be done but it's only going to be harder than picking the lock with picks.

[iateshaggy]

that's kinda what i figured, but at least it makes for a very cheap pick devise since everyone has a key to nothing laying around.

[ThE_MasteR]

Saw blades are best, because they are flexible.

[vector40]

I like the idea, but practically I think it would have all of the disadvantages of both a pick and a bump key, and few of the advantages of either.

[digital_blue]

Yeah, I can't say I'd want to have a "pick" for every keyway out there.

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[ThE_MasteR]

Yeah, I can't say I'd want to have a "pick" for every keyway out there.

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Lol, not a good idea at the end of the line.

[Chrispy]

You're gonna need a pretty big keyring.

[Keyring]

[digital_blue]

LOL. Keyring just woke up. "Wha? Huh? Did somebody call me?"

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[Auto45]

My first bump key I made got stuck in the lock, had to take the lock a part.

I made the bump by hand and the key cut where to sharp and not rounded.

After making a few got better a making them but it does a lot of damage on the pins on cheep locks like Kwikset, seem to work better on high security locks.
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[geno]

I can open up just about any 4 pin Master lock with one key. I just apply tension to the key whilst using a short in/out key movement.

I think the key (no pun) to making it work is to have a key that doesnt have a high cut.

The benefit of this technique over picking is, you only use one tool for tension and pin setting.

I doubt it would be effective with anything more complex than a 4 pin master.

[skold]

I can open up just about any 4 pin Master lock with one key. I just apply tension to the key whilst using a short in/out key movement.

I think the key (no pun) to making it work is to have a key that doesnt have a high cut.

The benefit of this technique over picking is, you only use one tool for tension and pin setting.

I doubt it would be effective with anything more complex than a 4 pin master.

Believe it or not young man, the key that "doesn't have a high cut" is a bump key..yes the key to having a bump key is to cut the key with the lowest cuts the key can possibly have, while still looking like a key and being able to work like a key.

Yes... it was my intention to use the word "key" as much as possible.

The bumpkey not effective on anything more complex than a 4 pin master...

Ever heard of Barry "the key" Wels????

[Chrispy]

The key is always to use the key that opens the lock like the key should. That key is the key when trying to find the key about picking a lock like you had the key.

Saying key as many times as possible is fun.

[geno]

Believe it or not young man, the key that "doesn't have a high cut" is a bump key..yes the key to having a bump key is to cut the key with the lowest cuts the key can possibly have, while still looking like a key and being able to work like a key.

Yes... it was my intention to use the word "key" as much as possible.

The bumpkey not effective on anything more complex than a 4 pin master...

Ever heard of Barry "the key" Wels????[/quote]

First off, i'm not exactly young.

I am not talking about a bump key. I know how a bump key works, and the method I use is not at all similar. I apply tension while raking the key.
Bounce keys don't use tension. I also misspoke when I said I use a key with no high cuts. The most effective key on my ring has 2 high cuts. Perhaps its a combination of high and medium cuts that makes it effective.