Bump keys and lock bumping finally have their own area. Discuss making bump keys, proper bumping techniques, and countermeasures here.
by Ezer » 17 Oct 2005 16:30
This is because I got the Wendt right? You just have to have the best toys in North America. 
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by zeke79 » 17 Oct 2005 16:35
I try  . Actually I ended up with a tomahawk by luck more than anything as I was not really looking or asking for one when the opportunity came.
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by digital_blue » 17 Oct 2005 16:46
And the legend grows....
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by zeke79 » 17 Oct 2005 18:36
digital_blue wrote:And the legend grows....
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Here is a smiley in return for your comment db. This is a smiley that you probably wont be able to return.

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by devildog » 17 Oct 2005 18:37
wwwoooohhoo!! We love you zeke!
Now, can we have the measurements for it (and the weight if you can)?
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by n2oah » 17 Oct 2005 19:13
Now all we need from Zeke is weight (to nearest mg), measurements (to the nearest 0.01"), the volume, the specific gravity, the atomic structure, the type of plastic used, the font of the letters, an exact replica devilvered to my house via UPS (include an evva cylinder with bumpkey), the origin, the date of manufacture, the size of screw used, the diameter of the hole on the handle, the angle of the bends, and don't forget a picture of it under an electron microscope. That'll be all.
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by stick » 17 Oct 2005 19:17
Make sure the bumpkey has that exact bow too.
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by digital_blue » 17 Oct 2005 19:17
I propose that the story is faked. I think that Zeke clearly just got ahold of some Tomahawk pictures and claims to own one. I'm sorry to "out" you like this Zeke, but if you'd like to clear your name I just can't see any other way than to send me the Tomahawk for inspection. I will return it in good order shortly.
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by zeke79 » 17 Oct 2005 19:31
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by pickmonger » 20 Oct 2005 2:38
Any chance of you please posting a photo of the tomahawk with a ruler for scale;or even posting the measurements. length, width, thickness of plastic handle and dimesions of the block of wood .
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by ThE_MasteR » 20 Oct 2005 5:29
pickmonger wrote:Any chance of you please posting a photo of the tomahawk with a ruler for scale;or even posting the measurements. length, width, thickness of plastic handle and dimesions of the block of wood .
It's a block of rubber , FYI.
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by Dark Angel » 20 Oct 2005 14:33
I haven't put a post on this sight for probably over a year now.but every now and then i still take a look through the posts to see what's new.
And after seeing all the threads on bumping i just had to post something.?
For a start i have never heard of it being refered to as bumping as far as i know its called rapping.
As you are using the keys to rapp the lock thus opening it.
There is also loads of bad information on this topic i would have thought that varjeal or mick would have set a few people straight on rapping.
Rapp keys are simply blank keys that have been cut to match each pin in the lock.
For instance if you wanted to open a yale lock with five pins then you would simply get five blank yale keys and get them cut so that each key represented each pin in the lock.
ie one key would be cut with the lowest gradient on it then the next with the second lowest gradient and so on.
The set of keys would then cover all the cuts from the highest to the lowest .
Each key is tried in the lock and rapped with a simple rubber mallet or hammer,until the lock gives and turns.
In my experience a rubber mallet is the best tool for the job or just a plain hammer.
This technique has been around for years and is well known.
It is not a big lockpicking secret and never has been.
Mainly because it is not a very relible way of opening a lock.
I posted some pictures of these rapp keys and a short description on my old lockpicking web sight.
If you want to have a look i think the link is still on here.?
Well thats my little rant over,hope this helps
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by zeke79 » 20 Oct 2005 15:08
I do not see the point of bumping/rapping a lock with a key that is cut any higher than the lowest cut in a specific lock  . If you were bumping a schlage for instance that you have no idea of the pinning why would you try to bump with an 8 or 7 cut key when the pinning could possibly include some 9 cuts? Bumping/rapping with a 9 cut on the same lock or even better a modified 10 cut key would always yeild better results. If I am missing something here Dark Angel please enlighten me.
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by illusion » 20 Oct 2005 15:15
if some pins were 9s they would jam as you are bumping it even with a 9 depth cut key.
I would have thought a 10 depth cut bumpkey would be your best bet, because there is no chance that any pins will hang up. Im confused on that one - can anyone confirm this?
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by zeke79 » 20 Oct 2005 15:18
Is that not what I just stated in my last post?
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