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Briggs security lock kicking my behind

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Briggs security lock kicking my behind

Postby l0cked0ut » 20 Oct 2005 5:34

I am going to give up all fatty delicious food until I figure out how to defeat this lock! I am determined...

Its a Briggs Security Padlock with 2 spool driver pins and 5 *STACKS OF* pins in total. Judging from the key and the price, it shouldnt be such a difficult lock, but my thumbs and fingers are arguing otherwise.

Ive spent almost 3 hours trying to open this lock, using every tactic i could think of to get the spool pins in place or otherwise open it. Ive managed to get it to the false set position (where the lock rotates slightly but gets stuck on the spools) a few times. I know where the spool pins are located, but it seems that this is a very well designed lock because it is extremely sensitive to tension changes. I know the "feel" will get better as I get more practice, but this is a small lock and it seems as though i need tiny picks to get any precision.

I tried finding a picture of it, but Im having trouble finding a website for briggs locks. Do they not have a website?

So, I am pretty much at a loss as to how to beat this lock. My search of the forums has yielded very little on these spool pinned type tumblers. Anyone have a few hints or links? thanks :)
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Postby Chrispy » 20 Oct 2005 6:00

You got a link for this lock?
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Postby skold » 20 Oct 2005 7:15

#include <iostream>

// skold prepares to start cooking though not so hot this time


int flame()
{
I think someone needs a dictionary to look up the meaning of rows.


Maybe you meant 5 stacks of pins..

Don't make posts that make little sence to someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
}

// n00bs
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Postby l0cked0ut » 20 Oct 2005 8:17

im so sorry, i meant columns ( or stacks) not rows. It was like 7 in the morning when I posted that (ive been awake all night), get off my case. The best thing to do if you dont have something useful/interesting/helpful to say is just to not say anything

sorry if this sounds pissy but jeez, its a minor point
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oil

Postby raimundo » 20 Oct 2005 10:41

I use 3 in 1 oil, some others use that triflow, with the teflon beads, but if you go with light tension and when you hear pins snap down, think of it as positive, they are easy to reset if you aren't trying too hard. light tension , oil, and take it easy on yourself, you'll get it open, then later you will get it down so you really know this lock.
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Postby l0cked0ut » 20 Oct 2005 16:22

so everyone uses oil to pick locks? can this lock be picked straight up without oil? Im just using a regular feeler. It seems very difficult even to hear or fell the clicks but I suppose thats because its well made and also the pins are tiny. Also I know itll take time but Im just trying to make sure its not an unpickable lock.
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Postby l0cked0ut » 20 Oct 2005 16:44

wow, this is how tired I was... I was saying Briggs locks which is why I couldnt find anything on the internet about the company :roll:
well, its actually BRINKS, and although I cant find a specific website dealing with this lock, heres a picture and general description of something similar.

http://www.lockcity.com/brinks/item.asp?target=42
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Postby Chrispy » 20 Oct 2005 22:36

Thought so. :wink:

*Chrispy thinking to himself* "Briggs? WTF?"
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Postby skold » 21 Oct 2005 5:28

l0cked0ut wrote:im so sorry, i meant columns ( or stacks) not rows. It was like 7 in the morning when I posted that (ive been awake all night), get off my case. The best thing to do if you dont have something useful/interesting/helpful to say is just to not say anything

sorry if this sounds pissy but jeez, its a minor point


Did you say something helpful or useful..No.

Don't talk to me like your the only one that has been awake all night..
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Oct 2005 5:31

And the claws come out..... mmmmrrreeeeoooowwwww!!!! :P
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Postby Mad Mick » 21 Oct 2005 17:30

Methinks someone just got Skolded. :P

I used to get that very often as a kid. Stupid parents. :cry:
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Postby l0cked0ut » 21 Oct 2005 17:56

skold wrote:
Did you say something helpful or useful..No.

Don't talk to me like your the only one that has been awake all night..


I was the one who asked the question... questions solicit helpful or useful responses, at least as far as I understand.
You could have simply said "they are stacks, not rows"

Skold, I dont know you or why you like "skolding" people, or noobs or whoever. I know youve been posting for a while here so Im not gonna get into an argument, I just wanted some help with my question.
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Postby Mad Mick » 21 Oct 2005 19:41

Don't take things too personal, l0cked0ut. Some of us are sticklers for exact terminology and won't reply if something isn't correct, some will dis-regard incorrect terms and offer subtle corrections, and others will just confuse you with further incorrect terms. (other noobs)

Skold, like a lot of established members on this site, has seen many new members frequently mis-use appropriate terminology. In the past, there was a mass crackdown on new members' use of terms, the English language and suchlike. This crackdown resulted in a new suggestion being offered to the Oxford English Dictionary. Unfortunately, the term 'Floobing' is only applicable to this site and the OED declined the request.

The result of this denial towards the integration within the English language of the terms 'floob'/'floobing' has unfortunately met with some resistance from certain members in certain corners of the globe.

The majority of the 'floobers' have sought solace by enrolling in personal anger-management programmes, but since this is a voluntary process, some may slip through the cracks.

Skold has advertised his affinity toward laziness many times on this site, so it can be assumed that this is an affliction.

There's an old saying...
"You shouldn't mock the afflicted."

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Postby Pickermeapie » 21 Oct 2005 20:33

skold wrote:#include <iostream>

// skold prepares to start cooking though not so hot this time


int flame()
{
I think someone needs a dictionary to look up the meaning of rows.


Maybe you meant 5 stacks of pins..

Don't make posts that make little sence to someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
}

// <censored> n00bs



Thats C++ language isn't it?
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Postby mike-z » 21 Oct 2005 21:57

...well its not html or javascript from what i know

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