Can I pick this manually?

[l0cked0ut]

I have a security padlock with 5 pins, 4 of them are spool pins. The #1 pin is the only regular pin, and it sets second. Is it possible to beat this lock with manual picks?

[Pickermeapie]

Yep. takes a little practice though. Might want to open the lock and remove some stacks before you try it all out though

[SFGOON]

In fact, the best way to defeat it is to use manual picks.

[eatjiggy]

How would you open this lock? To take the pins out I mean.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/ ... ure009.jpg

[Pickermeapie]

That lock cannot be rekeyed. Therefore you cannot remove the pins. Actually, you might be able to using the hot to cold water trick, but I am not familiar enough with that lock to tell you though. Pretty sure it can't.

[Chucklz]

Cut off the plastic bit. Rub a file across the side of the lock on the side where the top pins would usually be. You will see a small set of circles which correspond to brass retaining pins. You can drill these out, or drill a small hole and attempt to pry them out, or heat the lock up on a gas flame, then toss into cold water. If you chose the thermal method, you will definately have to replace the springs.

[Pickermeapie]

Don't you need a cap press to put the caps back on?

[Chucklz]

No, just a careful job with a hammer and file.

[eatjiggy]

Wow well.....screw that.

[digital_blue]

Wow well.....screw that.

[treboR]

This is actually a pretty good lock to learn about spool pins on. There are only 4 pins and the first is not a spool. Just keep practicing and you will get the feel for it.

Here is a couple of videos of that lock being picked.

http://hosted.filefront.com/rboehme/1404070

[eatjiggy]

:O how did he do that....

[treboR]

It just takes a little practice.

[l0cked0ut]

robertB, there was a file there showing a Brinks padlock being picked. I have a Brinks security padlock (not rekeyable). How many spools pins were in that lock and is there a specific way you approach that kind of lock?

[treboR]

My brinks rekeyable has 4 spool pins and one standard. The way I would tackle your lock would be to try to set the first pin first. Then find the next one that is binding. Raise it untill you feel the core give. If it gives more than what seems to be the usual amount, try to lift it more. If the core acts like it wants to turn the opposite way, let it(but still keep steady tension on the wrench), you should be able to feel the pin set. Repeat this for all of the pins. Keep in mind that some of the spools may start out falsly set or even already past that point(meaning you just barely have to raise them). Until you find out what order your lock's pins must be set in(trail and error) you might find that you keep unsetting your set pins.

Quicklocks has a really good video that shows how a spool pin behaves. There is a link to his vids on the welcome forum.

I hope this made sense. It is late for me.