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Problem setting levers.

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby Chrispy » 27 Oct 2005 7:37

Looks like a Delf. But yes, perhaps a Jackson. Probably a Delf.
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Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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Postby skold » 27 Oct 2005 7:38

What the hell are you on about?
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Postby oldlock » 27 Oct 2005 7:47

You could try a jacksons JM29. I have no idea what it would cost. You can order it from any locksmith. Without making the jump to safe locks it's probably the best locally produced lock you will get.

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Postby skold » 27 Oct 2005 7:50

any specs?
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Postby oldlock » 27 Oct 2005 7:52

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Postby Al » 27 Oct 2005 12:49

skold wrote:
Well i guess (guess is the key word) you did a lot of locksmithing in the uk to know so much about lever locks?


There's not much Paul doesn't know about lever locks, their manufacturers, their history, their . . . .
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Postby oldlock » 27 Oct 2005 16:04

Al wrote:
skold wrote:
Well i guess (guess is the key word) you did a lot of locksmithing in the uk to know so much about lever locks?


There's not much Paul doesn't know about lever locks, their manufacturers, their history, their . . . .


Thanks you Alan, now if I can just get my enlarged head through the front door without hitting it ....... ouch. My point was that lever locks; especially good ones, are a rare comoditity in Australia and as such few locksmiths or hobbyists are going to know how to deal with them effectively.

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Postby Bump » 29 Oct 2005 11:34

I am assuming you are using a 2 in 1 pick. If so I find it useful to compress the lever pack slightly with the bolt turning leg ie pulling the pick towards or pushing it away depending on which side you are entering.
The trick is to put just enough tension on to compress the pack so that alike levers stay up whilst the others are picked into position. Too much and you will jam the pack solid and risk breaking the leg on the pick, not enough and the levers drop down again.
Try to keep the pick horizontal so the central spine isnt contacting the keyway rim, this will allow you to feel the levers and the amount of tension needed.

Works for me! 8)
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Postby quicklocks » 29 Oct 2005 16:20

try over lifting the levers whist puting the tension on then jiggle the levers with the wire.
this may do it to it has worked for me loads of times :D
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Postby jaxo » 2 Nov 2005 7:53

Sorry if this is a stupid question....have to ask to learn! :roll:

What kind of picks do you need to pick a lever lock? A bit more heavy duty than standard ones? Got a photo?

Thanks for any help.


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Postby skold » 2 Nov 2005 8:00

Got coat hangers? :lol:
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Postby Keyring » 2 Nov 2005 8:05

Search the forum using key words like:

lever wire
2 in 1 pick
curtain pick
overlifter

There are certainly some pictures somewhere here. There are also other options, but the above should get you started. Lever wires are just bits of bent wire, one to push the bolt across and the other to lift the levers in turn. The best way to visualise it is to buy a lock, take it apart, and work out what you would need. Buy one without a curtain to start with.
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