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by Chrispy » 2 Nov 2005 7:46
Anyone who has had any experience or success at picking Bi-Locks, please contact me. I am trying to put together a video on a Bi-Lock pick success.
Please do not post any information on how to pick a Bi-Lock, as this falls into Advanced Locks and is not suitable for public forums. If you have ideas on tools or techniques, PM me or post in Advanced Locks.
Thanks.
Regards,
Chrispy
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by skold » 2 Nov 2005 7:59
Do you have msn Chrispy? I have just been picking on paticular old gen cylinder successfully.
Maybe we could put our videos together, newgen and old?
Pm me
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by TOWCH » 2 Nov 2005 9:50
Bad TOWCH.
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by zeke79 » 2 Nov 2005 10:46
Bi locks if I am correct do not utilize top pins so bumping would be out of the question.
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by TOWCH » 2 Nov 2005 11:20
Sorry, forgot about the no picking discussion bit.
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by skold » 2 Nov 2005 14:21
zeke79 wrote:Bi locks if I am correct do not utilize top pins so bumping would be out of the question.
That is correct.
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by Chrispy » 2 Nov 2005 21:31
I'll chat to you tonight skold. (I'm at work right now  )
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by Chrispy » 6 Nov 2005 6:12
If anyone has an idea on the best type/design for a Bi-Lock tension tool, please post your ideas here or PM me.
See below for the shape of the keyway.
*NOTE: This is only a tension tool, please do not discuss techniques or methods regarding the opening of this lock. The extent of this proposition goes as far as the design for a tension tool, nothing else.*
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by skold » 6 Nov 2005 6:14
PM sent 
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by TOWCH » 6 Nov 2005 12:02
I'd go with either a tight fitting rectange at the bottom of the keyway, or a two prong and place the prongs at opposite corners of the keyway. The first could be made form a ground down allen key, but the second would take some creativity.
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by n2oah » 6 Nov 2005 12:04
I wonder if there are any austrailians here that wouldn't mind having some american locks in exchange for a bi-lock 
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by skold » 6 Nov 2005 14:13
TOWCH wrote:I'd go with either a tight fitting rectange at the bottom of the keyway, or a two prong and place the prongs at opposite corners of the keyway. The first could be made form a ground down allen key, but the second would take some creativity.
there is abut a 1.5mm clearance between the bottom of the keyway and the pins.
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American lock noah? the brand or do you mean locks from over there?
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by n2oah » 6 Nov 2005 14:24
No, not American brand locks, locks from America. ( you, American Lock company)
I have some pretty interesting stuff over here 
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by skold » 6 Nov 2005 14:32
hmmmm give me a listy.
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by TOWCH » 6 Nov 2005 14:38
skold wrote:TOWCH wrote:I'd go with either a tight fitting rectange at the bottom of the keyway, or a two prong and place the prongs at opposite corners of the keyway. The first could be made form a ground down allen key, but the second would take some creativity.
there is abut a 1.5mm clearance between the bottom of the keyway and the pins. ' American lock noah? the brand or do you mean locks from over there?
I'm not sure if I understand. So you're saying that taking up that much of the bottom of the keyway, hinders pick movement too much? I'd go with the 2 prong idea, or make a U shaped wrench out of brickstrap then. You can bend brickstrap like that by pinching it between two appropriately sized square rods and bending up the edges with a hammer. You might want to grind down the edges a bit to give your pick some breathing room if it's a tight fit.
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