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Bump Keys?

Bump keys and lock bumping finally have their own area. Discuss making bump keys, proper bumping techniques, and countermeasures here.

Postby sagar » 15 Oct 2005 8:34

Hey I thought all lockpickers were geeks
But you guys are pretty cool,


You guys already hate me, don't you :D


Well this is bound to happen when I'm a guy who has no tools, and therefore talks sht all day long :wink:

BTW Stick I hope you read the message I sent you
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Postby l0cked0ut » 15 Oct 2005 14:56

BUMP KEYS!
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Postby ThE_MasteR » 15 Oct 2005 15:21

l0cked0ut wrote:BUMP KEYS!
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Postby l0cked0ut » 15 Oct 2005 16:33

just trying to stay on topic here...
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Postby Chrispy » 15 Oct 2005 21:02

sagar wrote:Hey I thought all lockpickers were geeks
But you guys are pretty cool,


You guys already hate me, don't you :D


Well this is bound to happen when I'm a guy who has no tools, and therefore talks sht all day long :wink:

BTW Stick I hope you read the message I sent you

Well, that came out of left field then didn't it? :wink:
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Postby sagar » 15 Oct 2005 23:17

Well I guess thats me, I'm a left field kinda guy.
If that made any sense that is. :D

Anyway, 10ckedOut is it possible for me to see the Tool magazine video you talked about on the net, it sounds very interesting
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Postby l0cked0ut » 16 Oct 2005 15:01

yes, just go to connect.waag.org/toool

all the vids are there, but be warned, you need broadband unless you want to wait all day.
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Postby sagar » 18 Oct 2005 0:04

Thanks 10ckedOut, the site is great, it sure does have alot of cool videos.
Do you by any chance know any other sites which have videos on lockpicking or bump keys ?
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Postby Shrub » 18 Oct 2005 15:13

This is a good a place to hijack if any,

Tension?

Do i put a little on from the start and keep it on or am i timing it with the hits, should it be heavy or light?

Ive been using a light tension on all the time but have yet to open my first lock whilst bumping and this is my second time around!! this time i have a proper tomahawk though so i know its not the tools :roll:

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Postby zeke79 » 18 Oct 2005 15:25

shrub,

What kind of lock are you bumping to start with? Try starting with a lock that has no security pins to get a feel for it. With these locks you can use slight tension from the start and hold it through the process. With locks that have alot of security pins I find that very very light tension throughout the process works as does no tension until after you strike the key and then applying the turning force. Of course timing is critical in that method and it is easiest with the lock mounted on something.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Postby Shrub » 19 Oct 2005 4:07

Hi zeke, i tried to find your thread on the subject but my pc was playing up last night and kept crashing hence posing the first one i saw :oops:

Im trying a simple 5 pin yale cylinder for now but i have also tried a 6 pin ERA euro and some cheap 5 pin euros all with no avail, ive been useing light tension all the time whilst hitting, im going to go through the process again today by modifiying the key from the lock instead of making new keys, ill see if thats any differant, ill also try a bit of glue or rubber on the instead of the shoulder and get back to you,

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Postby sagar » 14 Nov 2005 4:22

Is it very neccesary for me to get the exact angles of the cuts on the key at 45 degrees. Does it make a big difference if they are a little bumpy
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Postby vector40 » 14 Nov 2005 4:31

Not according to most of the recent findings. Do the best you can, though... and do make sure that the cuts are in (more or less) the right spots.
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Postby digital_blue » 14 Nov 2005 10:08

I've found that placement of the cuts is infinitely more important that the specific angle of the cuts. I've been using a square file so my cuts are always 90 degrees (angle in vs. angle out) but even when they're not straight (ie, tilled one way or the other) if the cuts are in basically the right place, it'll work.

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