got my set

[nails]

hello...

i got my set this morning and i have been trying but i cant get the lock up in atleast 1 hour and i would like to now if there is a good technique that i should use ? and how to know if the pin is set and such.

[illusion]

Hey its cool that you got your new set... what set did you buy?

As far as picking a lock its been discussed many times i'll wager so search and you'll find anyting you want.

As for knowing when you've set a pin... when you set a pin the top pin gets trapped at the top, and therefore the spring no longer exerts preasure onto the bottom pin... so to see if you've set a pin lift the pin, and if it has been set it should be VERY easy to lift (almost zero effort) because the original preasure that was being exerted by the pring has now stopped.

Try lifting the pins without tension and you'll feel the preasure that the spring exerts, and should be a fair bit of resistance. Basically when a pin sets that resistance stops... it also rattles if you lift it up and let it fall.

Hope this helps

[digital_blue]

Have a good, thorough read through the MIT Guide to Lockpicking. That'll give you enough to know what you're trying to do.

Happy picking!

db

[nails]

my set is a pxs-14b pick set. It comes complete with 5 picks with handles, 5 without, 1 broken key extractor and 4 tension wrenches. Also includes a leather case and book.

[devnill]

what type of lock are you trying to open?

[triman247]

Yeah, read the MIT guide, and also search alot for things that you want to know before you post. It kind of clutters up the forum. If you cant find it on this site, try googling it. Almost always works for me.


triman

[illusion]

you may as well post a pic of the lock you were trying

[nails]

ill give u a pic of it right away

[nails]

ohh dear... i dont have anything to put the pic's onto the computer... well unless i use my sucky old digital camera with 3,3 mega pixel... i hope u will see the lock clear enough.

[nails]

here they are:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/ ... G_0042.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d113/ ... G_0041.jpg

Please Note: that the pic of the keyhole is very bad, and that is because of my bad camera

[illusion]

well..... it appears to be a Euro profile cylinder with a thumbturn

seriously... the pic dosn't really show any usefull factors, except that the ward system is not very restrictive.

Perhaps post the manufacturer's name... and if possible your impressions regarding picking - does it have security pins? do you have any difficulty in pressing the pins down?

more info means more help

[nails]

ehh the manufactor is french it says: made in france on the key and the manufactors name is vachette, and i have had no expirience with disassembling these locks and that goes with picking them too.

[illusion]

ohhh.... achette make some seriously nice high security cylinders like the "Vachette Radiale"...

I wouldn't be suprised if your is loaded with security pins

Maybe they do different levels of security, but this seems a difficult lock

[nails]

that may explain some of my problems

[NKT]

Go to the local market, and buy a really cheap euro cylinder without thumbturn. Look for ones with really sloppy machining, that sort of thing. You might be able to find them for as little as two and a half euros - I was given a clone of the Mul-T-Lok by someone who bought a dozen from a stall for €2-50 each.

Then have a go! Try single pinning and raking. Raking works on cheap locks, single pin opens good locks. Raking occasionally works on good locks, and is often a good way to get the security pins set, then you have to go strictly handheld.