yale& towne padlock

[minilock]

hi board , hope I am posting this in the right place. have a 1912 brass padlock YALE& TOWNE MFC CO on the otherside STAMFORD. CONN.USA. The key opening looks like warded type having a very hard time with it could it have leavers or is this a good warded padlock it cost me as a swap £20 , I also have the same padlock in a smaller version but not %100 brass, well to get to the point the standerd (5 warded keys ) are not doing nix using my hook I am geting movement from the wards . sorry for the longwinded post . ( to old soon to late smart) gus

[jjmerg]

any pics available? some of these used all levers to open, not just a ward. are we certain it is warded or levers?

[minilock]

hi thanks for your reply having to learn to send photos , have some other locks that might be of interest will send some very soon . many thanks.

[Mad Mick]

...having to learn to send photos...

I will teach you all you need to know if you click me!

[minilock]

thanks will try to do it over the weekend

[digital_blue]

I... don't... think... I've ever actually seen that thread. What a great post. Man, newbies should have to pass through that thread before the get to the rest of us.

db

[minilock]

have highlited img /ctrl/c then 101 mouse in text then ctrl/v nothing , thanks anyway BACK TO LURKING

[raimundo]

I believe that I know the type you are looking at, does it have dark areas on the outside that appear sand cast with raised bands that are ground to a smooth finish? dust the dark sand cast area with some flour and see if you can find a code number just beneath the top smooth band, two letters, and on the other side of the yale and town circle two numbers. I havent got the code book, but if you go to somewhere where this lock is displayed, some old lock shop with a collection, if they have the key, you will find that when it opens, a spring throws the shackle open, by pushing a piston up under the opening end of the of the shackle. the other end of the shackle is hinged.
This is definately not just a warded lock, although there are plenty of wards. there is some sort of locking dog that enters the shackle in a way that is not the warded lock type. I do not have much information on the mechanism, but I once got one open by first doing a smudge impression on a strip of steel, then putting in a strip of brass that was cut with a jewlers saw so that it had comb teeth, bend this a little bit and remove it while you still can, (if you bend it too far, it will not come out of the lock, but just cut the kurfs of the comb to fit the besidethe impression on the steel blank, into the softer thinner brass blank,) you cannot find suitable blanks but just strips of metal will do. when the brass blank comes out with some of the comb teeth bent back slightly, you have located the wards and you can cut them on the steel blank, put this in again and try it. this method eventually worked for me once. on another occasion it failed, but find the code number and see if any antique lock dealer has a code book. this could help. there are antique lock sites on google.

[minilock]

thanks ++++++++ this baby is going to be the death of me , have another one but 1/3rd the size , you have explained to me what I thought could be my Problem . how long do you think one of those guys at H2K2 lockpick workshops coud pick this . another question without a photo, but a little info . have a padlock (WORMALD SHEFFIELD made in England) odd looking hasp , used for locking gas /coin /meters.the key opening looks like a teardrop. can e-mail photo , having no luck with photobucket . I have been searching and am not looking for the easy option . thanks GUS

[minilock]

[illusion]

Your padlock is mentioned on this site: http://www.charleslocksmith.com/Small_Padlocks.htm
(copy it into the address bar)

the padlock you describe is a simple warded padlock.

A warded padlock pick is the tool you need- it should be the one with a "T" shape end... these can be purchased from many online stores, but to give an example of such a pick here's a link: http://www.devonlocks.com/html/media/bi ... P-10-l.jpg
(again copy it into the address bar)

A very nice padlock, and one that is good for any collection... apparently it was originaly a "railway lock"

Hopefully this will help

(EDITED: stupid errors of spelling ammended)

[minilock]

thanks for your help ,have the 5 warded keys and have no problems with warded padlocks. except this one and his smaller brother . this is a gem of a site have been lurking for a long long time . this other lock was used years ago in the UK on GAS /CASH meter boxes on the other side the keyhole ia tear shaped ?????? not a easy one will try to send pic of other side. took me 2 days to do P/ BUCKET

[SFGOON]

That's an antique? Very nice find! Makes me want to start a collection.

[Jason13]

That looks like Something from the 1800 lol

[Shrub]

I would like to collect old locks but i have a habbit of just throwing them in the back of my van and then they seem to fall out at the local scrappy on to the scales

Now safe plaques are a differant kettle of fish