Master lock proseries

[Lutioush]

I've got a pro series 6121 and i'm wondering if anyone has any advice. I've been working at it for around 2 hours and this is one of my first picks. Its got two arches on the lock that prevent me from turning the wrench. Any ideas?

[zeke79]

I've got a pro series 6121 and i'm wondering if anyone has any advice. I've been working at it for around 2 hours and this is one of my first picks. Its got two arches on the lock that prevent me from turning the wrench. Any ideas?

Yes, go to your nearest wal-mart if you are in the United States (hard to tell since you have not filled out your profile hint-hint) and pick up a kwikset deadbolt. The keyed both sides model is the best value as it is only a few dollars more than a normal keyed one side/thumbturn model and will offer you two different cylinders to pick. I recommend you search here for a guide to disassemble that lock and repin it to just one or two chambers and practice. Work your way up to 5 pins and then try the other cylinder .

You will need a little practice before you tackle that pro series. The standard master cylinders that come equipped in those locks are not bad for an experienced picker but can be a nightmare for a beginner. If you need any help, first search the forums. If you can't find an answer then post your questions . Welcome aboard!!

[Lutioush]

I'm from the US and i've got a walmart about a half mile away (who doesn't). I'll take your advice and find an easier lock but what makes the pro series so hard? Obviously its a more expensive lock and it gives higher security but how does it? What makes it different? Just wondering really for learning purposes. I thought it was a 5 pin and i checked the site and that right but is there anything else?

[vector40]

The keyway is more restrictive and the tolerances are tighter (giving you less margin for error in your picking and less feedback), mainly. Could be security pins as well, I dunno.

[grit1]

Nice to get a "normal" newbie and not a n00b for a change ... welcome, please enjoy your visit!

[Lutioush]

lol glad i can accomidate to your newbie standards

[Shrub]

Have a search for spool pins, mushroom pins, security pins.

Its not actually the number of pins in a lock that gives it security as such, a well made lock is going to be harder to pick anyway due to the reasons described in the learning guides.

[wtf|pickproof?]

And of course don't forget to fill out your profile so you don't have to state youre from US all the time.

[raimundo]

lutefisk. and its acco

[quickpicks]

I am assuming your lock has 5 upper spool drivers and 3 normal lower driver pins. You most likely have one with a tight keyway so it will definately take you some time to pick it. Dissasemble it and try picking it with 3 or 4 pins.
Theese locks can be keyed for 6 pins. I have a variations of the lock but they are all essentially the same. Here is a pic of one of my 6-pin locks with an A10? keyway. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/ ... ies1-2.jpg

I bought this cylinder bitted for around 10 bucks so they are on the margin for expensive. I always repin them if I am actually going to use them because they get very easy to pick. a combo like 834587 is a good choice.

[ThE_MasteR]

Here's some pictures of mine to.
http://photobucket.com/albums/y34/mothe ... 0_1477.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/y34/mothe ... 0_1478.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/y34/mothe ... 0_1483.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/y34/mothe ... 0_1482.jpg

[vector40]

Number of pins is definitely important to picking difficulty, though

[quickpicks]

I like those cylinders. They are harder to pick sometimes.