Bird cylinders

[pcbear]

I done a job for a family member the other day, when i went into the house i noticed he had a bird lock body, why did you fit that Tom? its crap,
I never said he , a locksmith did and charged him £66, 21 for the lock and 45 labour, the lock can be sourced for 3 quid, he also recommended they keep their own cylinder, you wont need new keys for family blah blah, so he has probably charged some poor bugger 50 quid for his (high security)bird cylinder, wrong eh!

[taylorgdl]

Agreed,

Bird are not the "high end" of the market by any means, I'm doing a few checks for family members and friends, and would certainly not recommend Bird.

Its one of the first cylinders I've picked. And at that price !

Don't know how the honest guys make a living, I mean honestly . . .

G.

[jason]

I carry Birds - they're handy to give away - I give customers the choice of a freebie (Bird) or the better quality Yale/Union finally offering the Ingersoll. Even when you explain the benefits most still want the cheapy

[toomush2drink]

I use assec all the time, they are as cheap as birds and excellent quality and a tricky little pick .

[EvoRed]

Same as, Toomush. My van is full of Asec stuff.....euro cylinders, oval cylinders, rim cylinders, screw-in cylinders, padlocks, mortice locks, cam locks...

If you're willing to spend a pound on a Bird cylinder then you have to be mad not to spend about the one and half pound it costs for an Asec instead...

[jason]

I'll be honest - I've never looked at the Assec stuff I thought that it was just cheapy kit so went for the cheapest - I'll buy and try to pick a couple now

[Shrub]

My cheapo's are the Avocet 6 pin with latch etc, i did get a couple of birds once but i thik they got swept out the van and thrown away on a spring clean, i just could never bring myself to ever fit one.

Again, ive not looked at the asec's either. When i need some more cheapos ill look into it.

My main stock on the cylinder front is x5's to be honest and as for euros only carry the zone security range which i find are a nice lock for the price.

[pinky]

remember chaps, as far as a thief is concerned it really is immaterial what cylinder is fitted, the key if no deadlock fitted is to ensure a quality non slip latch is fitted.
Sadly public will happily pay for good high security anti pick cylinder on the door, though skimp by leaving a cheap nightlatch on the door, easily slipped or kicked off of the door.

why not sell them a nightlatch with a deadlocking bolt rather than a latch ? so before advising a good cylinder, ensure this is coupled with a good latch, otherwise an upgraded cylinder is pointless.