ScanLock

by **digital_blue** » 29 Oct 2005 0:11

The one I got came from ebay, but it wasn't the first one I'd seen on there. They seem to pop up fairly often, though I have a feeling that as a result of this thread the price just went up.

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by **devildog** » 29 Oct 2005 4:36

You know, I keep hearing about Scorpion Locks occassionally, and have kinda wondered if they were any good or not. Anyone know much about them?

by **digital_blue** » 29 Oct 2005 8:24

From what I can tell, the Scorpion is exactly like the ScanLock. Only difference I can find seems to be the addition of mushroom pins.

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by **digital_blue** » 5 Nov 2005 0:42

Well, this is indeed a pretty lock, and I'm finding, not an easy one to pick either. These little sidebar pins are a bit tricky because of the false gates, and the small size of the teeth that protrude into the keyway. I have been mulling over a special rake to rake them, but I haven't gotten myself motivated enough to bother. But, as of yet, I've not been successful with it even once.

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by **RenderMan** » 7 Nov 2005 18:41

Those definatly look like Scorpion CX-5's. Without seeing the guts for myself I can't say if it's the exact same or not. Probobly scanlock sold thier patents and intellectual property.

I had them installed in my house and feel a sense of 'pickers pride' when I see that sidebar cut on the key.

From all my tinkering I find them a very good lock. Restricted keys, sidebar.

The really neat (or evil if your picking it) is the sidebar finger pins don't have any springs. They are loose in thier chambers and thier position is set when they ride the side cut on the key. This makes picking a right PITA! since there is no resistance to pick against. Combined with false gates, they are nicely comforting on my doors.

by **digital_blue** » 7 Dec 2005 9:39

If anyone is interested... there is another of these listed on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :FSEL:US:1

Cheers.

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by **zeke79** » 19 Dec 2005 19:00

I would like to note an interesting difference that may exist between the scorpion CX5 and the scanlock. The difference I am speaking of is a feature that is common to most high security ASSA locks. This feature is the use of a special top spool pin and counter milling of the pin chamber in the plug. The effect of this is that the top pins are trapped on the spool section inside the plug rather than at the shear line. This makes pushing the pins past this countermilled area very difficult. In my experience this greatly frustrates picking.

I just thought I would throw that out there. I just received a Scorpion cutaway a few days ago and happened to notice the top pins and had suspected this. I had a chance to pull the lock apart tonight and confirmed my theory

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by **n2oah** » 19 Dec 2005 19:05

By the way, Zeke, you have to get me some pictures of that CX-5 cutaway, the ASSA Twin cutaway , and the Mul-t-Lock cutaways. :wink:

by **Omikron** » 22 Dec 2005 5:17

digital_blue wrote:If anyone is interested... there is another of these listed on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :FSEL:US:1

Cheers.

db

Just received the lock today...

Thanks for the link db! ;-)

by **digital_blue** » 22 Dec 2005 11:31

Good buy. Let me know if you get anywhere with it. I've really not spent a lot of time with it.

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by **raimundo** » 30 Jun 2006 9:18

something about the scanlock makes me think of assa desmo :shock:

by **greyman** » 30 Jun 2006 9:31

As far as I can see, Scanlock is the same as Scorpion CX5, give or take some anti-pick pins. I wonder who made the lock first? From what I hear, Scorpion sells from Canada but they say the technology is from south Korea. Perhaps it was licensed to both US and Canada under different brand names? At any rate they're in for heavy competition from Assa and Medeco.

by **workstation** » 3 Jul 2006 8:25

I think you have that the wrong way round. Assa and Medeco are all part of the Assa Abloy group. There are very few independent firms, so really, Scorpion is the competition! I wonder if it will get bought out?

I notice their website has disappeared. Probably forgot to renew it?

I do like the way they currently only offer deadbolt and kik cylinders. This will enable them to keep costs down. I hope they expand to other cylinder types eventually. I would really like to an affordable secure Euro range.

The problem really, as many have commented, is the fact that the CX5 is bumpable if you can get the sidebar code by buying a lock from the same shop. Maybe they could use Emhart-style interlocking pins to counter this? I don't think that would be much harder than making good mushrooms. There would be no need to actually use more than one angle on the key, although that would be an option.

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