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Lock turning direction - Europe vs US?

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Lock turning direction - Europe vs US?

Postby oystlars » 13 Dec 2005 4:59

I have just read yet another "lockpicking manual" that states that the lock turning direction is 50 - 50 chance of getting it the right way.

But I did a brainsearch on this, and can't see this is true for Norway (trioving, abus, burg), as most of the locks turn clockwise.

By now I can only remember 2 locks turning counter clockwise, they are both situated with the pins upwards and has to be turned at least 1 complete round before the door opens.

Is this true or is it different in other countries?

/øystein, Norway
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Postby Chrispy » 13 Dec 2005 5:09

I would have to say, based on my experiences, 80% of locks turn clockwise. :)
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Postby Keyring » 13 Dec 2005 6:49

You know, my instinct is to always turn the top of the key away from the door frame. So I just went over the yard to the works toilet to try it. As it turns out, you can turn it either way to open...
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Postby oystlars » 13 Dec 2005 8:49

Hehe, Keyring, isn't that typical?

The same here in norway, the top away from the door opening.

I was wondering more of small locks like padlocks etc..

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Postby Keyring » 13 Dec 2005 11:06

Yes, I think all the padlocks I have open clockwise. They're mostly Abus, Yale, Master, Zone plus a number of cheap ones from 'Poundland' (or Kroneland I suppose you call it :) )
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Postby digital_blue » 13 Dec 2005 13:37

I think those guides usually have north american deadbolts in mind. On those locks, it is a 50/50... sort of. But more often than not, rotating away from the door jam will open the lock. However, for padlocks, abloy locks, etc this is not the case.

Cheers!

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Postby webidiot2 » 13 Dec 2005 15:55

yes that is true if a deadbolt is on the left side it is usually clockwise if it is on the right it is usually counter-clockwise.
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Postby Varjeal » 13 Dec 2005 16:06

*insert witty comment here*
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Postby oystlars » 13 Dec 2005 16:18

Well, that probably ended that diskussion, thanks :o
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Postby oystlars » 13 Dec 2005 16:19

discussion, discussion, discussion, ...

Discussion (en) = diskusjon (norwegian).

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Postby vector40 » 13 Dec 2005 20:15

Okay, let's stop being flakey.

Has ANYONE here, EVER, encountered a standard-type residential deadbolt (a deadbolt deadbolt -- not a rim cylinder, not a KIK, not a mortise cylinder in some complex locking device, but a deadbolt deadbolt deadbolt like that you buy at Home Depot) that does NOT open and close in the standard directions?
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Postby grit1 » 14 Dec 2005 0:44

vector40 wrote:Okay, let's stop being flakey.

Has ANYONE here, EVER, encountered a standard-type residential deadbolt (a deadbolt deadbolt -- not a rim cylinder, not a KIK, not a mortise cylinder in some complex locking device, but a deadbolt deadbolt deadbolt like that you buy at Home Depot) that does NOT open and close in the standard directions?


Not that I can think of - I can think of a lot of locks on the list that you said not to discuss that operate weirdly, but not a normal bored deadbolt lockset...
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Postby Varjeal » 14 Dec 2005 9:58

vector40: Yes.
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Postby vector40 » 14 Dec 2005 19:30

Liez.

How? What sort?
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Postby MudSlinger » 15 Dec 2005 17:35

Just thinking through, there are some rules that hold true so your arent always guessing.
Such as..
-Standard kwickset, schlage, yale, weiser, Dexter, weslock, ect.. deadbolts pick away from the door frame to unlock.

-Master lock brass padlocks pick open clockwise, and most laminated master lock padlocks pick open in both directions. Master high security(chuckle) pick open clockwise.

-Adams-rite deadlatch/bolt pick clockwise regardless of the cylinder brand.

also as far as I can tell panic bar rim cylinders always pick in ther directon opposite of the one you just picked it in. Also if the padlock had gaurds... its a dead giveaway.

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