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DIY Jigglers?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Mad Mick » 30 Jan 2004 0:28

From what I gather from the instruction booklet with the kit, all the rocker picks (single/double sided) could be classed as 'jigglers', as you would have to 'jiggle' the in the lock. Personally, I've tried them all without success (for now), and just stick to manipulating the rods via the gap between the glass & weather strip using with wedges.
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Postby danreller » 30 Jan 2004 11:56

Thanks Mad Mick,

These look a lot different than the "jigglers" I have. Mine are the simple dual sided ones usually seen. I was able to pick my GM van door in under 5 minutes.

Thanks again.
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Postby Mad Mick » 30 Jan 2004 17:49

danreller, I don't know if you looked at all the images, some are single-sided and some are double-sided.

You seem to have had more success than I had. I tried double wafer locks with serrations on the wafers and the cylinder. These locks tend to 'hold' the wafers as you apply tension on the jiggler/rocker pick/whatever you want to call it. I've also tried manual picking without success. I have no problems picking 'normal' wafer locks such as on my tool kits, but the serrated wafers pose a problem for me. As a mechanic, I'm on the clock so the quicker I can get a vehicle open, the more bonus I retain. That's why I mainly use MCOT's and SlimJim's.

BTW Chubby, thanks for your appreciation of the pics. You're right about the jiggler/rocker reference, the manual does in fact refer to them as 'rocker picks'. Please feel free to correct me on anything if it's not the correct term. I'm still noob and willing to learn from everyone who knows more than I do (99% of the forum), so no offence taken. I know you said:
Not a criticism btw
but personally, I believe that constructive criticism is a necessary part of the learning process. Thanks for the pointer :D
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Postby lockpickroy » 30 Jan 2004 22:42

Mad Mick
Thank you very much for posting the great images! They are Nice clean, and clear. I make my own picks so I am always looking for templates and it is hard to find many images good enough to use as a template from the Internet.
Lock picking hobbyist turned licensed locksmith thanks in part to lp101.com
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Postby Mad Mick » 31 Jan 2004 20:11

Thanks lockpickroy.

Oh, the wonders of a scanner......a rather under-rated tool in my opinion.
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Postby technik » 7 Feb 2004 9:03

danreller, anychance of yu scanning the pictures of you jigglers on 1cm graph paper? I would be really grateful. :D
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Postby marso » 7 Feb 2004 18:42

technik certainly is persistant ;)
Consider me inactive or lurker.
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Postby Sipe » 7 Feb 2004 18:51

liquibite,

i downloaded your file and it was great! i recomend this file to everyone1
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Postby Mad Mick » 7 Feb 2004 21:38

technik certainly is persistant


LOL!! If you don't ask..........
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Postby danreller » 7 Feb 2004 23:20

Hi technic,

In all honesty, you can buy the picks for the materials and effort it would take you to re-create these. I mean we are only talking about $20 US. My scanner is under a pile of papers and other stuff and to be honest I haven't used it in over a year and a half. I'm not sure I can figure out how to use it now.
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Postby technik » 24 Feb 2004 9:57

wen your talking AUSTRALIA. 20 bucks US is a big deal (about $50+. shipping incl.) But I get your point, i'll try and make some.
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Postby Mad Mick » 24 Feb 2004 19:19

If you have access to some sort of grinding equipment, it's not very difficult to reproduce some form of pick/jiggler from a posted image. The materials required to make picks have been discussed on numerous occasions, and at great length. Also, the most important tool of all, the tension/torque (whatever you want to call it) wrench has also been discussed.

The most popular stock for making jigglers seem to be hacksaw blades, which IMO are very cheap, or feeler blades, also pretty cheap.

Search the forum, there's a wealth of info right under your fingertips.
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Postby horwichg » 24 Feb 2004 20:41

Mad Mick- What did you use for handles on your wiper blade picks?
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Postby Mad Mick » 24 Feb 2004 21:03

horwichg, I used two layers of heat-shrink.

IMO, the wiper-blade picks are fine for small locks using the tension wrench in the bottom of the keyway, but I have now converted to using the larger picks with the tension wrench in the top. If the wrench tends to slip out of the keyway, you can rough it slightly on the edges with 100 grit sandpaper to enable it to grip better.
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Postby Chucklz » 24 Feb 2004 21:36

Mick, Ive found that when picking with wrench on top, that if the wrench tends to slip, I can get good results by narrowing the first few mm of the wrench. Needless to say I have a lot of funky looking wrenches.
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