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So what have you opened?

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

So what have you opened?

Postby SteveW » 15 Dec 2005 21:33

I want to buy a CB Curtain pick, Shrub has recomended the 5g, so what is it capable of opening. I want to know how usefull this tool can be to me.
What about the other curtain picks that are available?
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Re: So what have you opened?

Postby panalman » 16 Dec 2005 5:31

SteveW wrote:I want to buy a CB Curtain pick, Shrub has recomended the 5g, so what is it capable of opening. I want to know how usefull this tool can be to me.
What about the other curtain picks that are available?


It will open the locks it was designed to open but you will need to practise I have a 5g/5.5g CB pick as well as 7g and they have opened everything I have put in front of them but as I say I had to practise a lot. I also have a RB curtain pick and it works well but the CB pick has the advantage because it can get the low levers on locks such as ERA.

How usefull will the CB pick be? Get one and you will see!!! :o
There is always a solution to a problem and a way in without destruction !!!!!
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 6:03

I know practice will be in order (lots of it !) i am just trying to assertain how versitile the pick is. :D
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Postby Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 6:21

Its easier to say what it wont open,

It wont open the locks that have a differant shaped keyhole like the chubb rks but then Chris does a differant pick for those :wink:

With practice you should open every lock that little pick fits into :wink:

Have a look at the comments on his website for further purswasion if your still not sure.
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 6:33

Ok ive checked CB's website and im sold, i think a trip to Duffell's is in order. Another question and i know opinions will vary but what are the easiest locks to open with this pick? Working on them first will heelp me get a feel for the pick, i dont want to leap strait in with something to challanging befor i know where im am with it. What about an Union 2134/2234 or Era Profit, as ive already got loads of em ? :)
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Postby jdeacon » 16 Dec 2005 6:50

I'm also in the midst of practising like mad with Chris' 5/5.5G pick.

I found the Union 2134 to be a good start. Then someone suggested a Legge Value as a good practice lock. I'd already found one of pinky's Legge Value locks, with low levers in two and four, to be pretty challenging. And then my practice Legge Value turned out to be almost identical. It took four hours :? (sat in the living room, bored with the vice and the bench - I'm also teaching myself to practice the Chris B way - he holds the lock and tensions it with one hand, and picks it with the other).

I can open all of my (four) practice 3G114s and 3G115s faster than that! Although for me it's harder to get out of anti-picks with the 3g114/5, it's easier for me to tell that I'm in them.

My ERA Invincible practice lock has a silly lever pattern. They're all in the middle - 3s, 4s and 5s - you just lift every lever by exactly the same amount and it's done. I've just got myself Invincible low and high levers to make it a bit more realistic. The ERA Profit is 7G so unless you're splashing out on more than just a 5/5.5G CB pick, it's no good yet.
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Postby jdeacon » 16 Dec 2005 6:56

I meant to say that I actually started with a Union 2101, which should be a piece of cake. It was easy, but seemed to require masses of tension.
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 8:30

Should i get the 5g (£119) or should i splash on the complete set (£548) to cover all my bases? The price is not the problem its just a case of being sensible.
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Postby Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 9:24

If money isnt the problem i would go for the full set as you will wish you had after just getting one anyway.

The union will be an easy pick along with a chubb 115.

The after sales sevice from chris is second to none as well :wink: if you have a problem he will help you out until its sorted 8)
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 19:53

Nearly every time Shrub makes a suggestion i seem to end up spending more money!!. Hey but it is the sensible option, i think i will buy the full set, and worry about decoder kits and the rest at a later date. Hey with practice i wont even need them.

Shrub you dont work for CB or Duffell's do you ! (muses suspiciously) :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 19:58

:lol: No unfortunatley or else i would be spending less money myself :lol:

I wish the full set was available when i first bought a cb pick though or at least knew about it if it was, i would have been sorted from mthe out set then other than the priceless practice.

If i could tell you a differant way around things i would but cb's picks have been developed over so many years i should think i was still at school when they first appeared :lol: in fact im sure i was and maybe even just a glint in my fathers eye when chris first started out on the design :wink:
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 20:18

Are Duffell's open saturdays ? I bow to your widom ! :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 20:26

Sorry i dont have such wisdom. Maybe the website does if its not under construction :wink:
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Postby SteveW » 16 Dec 2005 20:29

Doh !! i should have thought of that !!
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Postby Shrub » 16 Dec 2005 20:30

:lol: And im the one just in from the pub :idea:
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