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Dismantling Key in Knob Locks?

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Dismantling Key in Knob Locks?

Postby Neil Hawkins » 21 Dec 2005 4:24

Hello,

This is my first post here, I've been reading the various forums for awhile seems like a lot of good information going around.

Anyway, my question is how do you remove the cyclinder from generic 'key in knob' type locks?

I have a couple that I would like to re-pin but I can't seem to see anyway of getting the cyclinder out, it is too big to pass through the neck and the knob does not seem to come apart at all.

Anyway I'll go back to reading, but if anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Neil
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Dec 2005 4:32

There will be a circlip on the back of the knob (a circlip is a horse shoe shaped piece of metal with two holes on each end) holding all the pieces inside the knob. Take the circlip off and the pieces will come off one by one. The cylinder will be the last piece to come out. The trick is to get it all back together and working properly. :wink:
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Postby Omikron » 21 Dec 2005 4:37

I'm not completely certain what stage of disassembly your knob is in. If you were able to post some pictures, it might be easier to help you out. :-)
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Postby vector40 » 21 Dec 2005 6:50

These things come apart all sorts of ways. Do you have the knob disconnected?
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Postby grit1 » 21 Dec 2005 14:41

And most importantly what brand is your knob? I know that Sargents and Kwiksets come apart in vastly different ways ... pictures maybe? ~Grit.
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Postby n2oah » 21 Dec 2005 16:37

"Lockpicking is what robbing is all about!" says Jim King.
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Postby Neil Hawkins » 21 Dec 2005 20:06

Thanks for the replies.

I have the knob completely separated from the rest of the mechanism and the cylinder can move freely inside the knob, it just doesn't come out!

I have no idea of the brand, it is cheap and fairly old.

I will get some photo's together next time I'm at the property (over the weekend).

Regards and Merry Christmas (or Happy Holidays)

Neil
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Postby Neil Hawkins » 2 Jan 2006 20:17

Here are some photo's of the lock I need to re-pin.

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It is obvious that the collar should come off, but I cannot budge it and don't want to damage it. The cyclinder is completely free inside and the neck of the knob appears to be fixed inside the knob. I can't see any clips that hold the collar in place.

As I said it is a very cheap lock, but reasonably common over here in Australia.

Thanks

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Postby n2oah » 2 Jan 2006 20:41

The rusty piece and the long tube shaped piece are two different pieces. Did you try just pulling on the rusty piece? If you did and it won't come out, it's rusted in. Try spraying some WD-40 and letting it soak in, then try again.
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Postby Neil Hawkins » 2 Jan 2006 20:46

I did, but I will give it another try.

The rusted piece does appear to fit inside the rim of the knob, so I had tried pushing it down without luck. I'll see if I can get it move at all tomorrow.

Thanks

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Postby vector40 » 3 Jan 2006 1:29

Aye, either the neck will separate from the rusty collar, or the rusty collar will separate from the knob. I'm more used to the latter, but whatever. You can try to push it (whatever "it" ends up being) out by pressing on the face of the plug.
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