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Picking the Keyed Lock on Back of a Masterlock Combination

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Picking the Keyed Lock on Back of a Masterlock Combination

Postby phishery » 21 Dec 2005 13:23

Ok, so this may have been posted before--rest assured I tried hard to find it via search.

I just starting picking and have picked two masterlocks of various varieties and was able to get a standard combination lock for which I was able to reverse the combination.

I noticed it has a master key lock on the back and have been at it but it just won't give in. Have others been able to open this master key lock on the back of the combination lock? Do I just need to keep at it?

Any info will be appreciated.
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Postby DrStu » 21 Dec 2005 13:28

I think these need to be picked Counter Clockwise. I'm sure I read a post recently about this. I not sure though I have never picked one.
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Postby grit1 » 21 Dec 2005 14:35

I've picked plenty of those, and all of the ones I've worked with had a clock-wise turning direction. I think they're only 3 or 5 pins, no security pins at all so it shouldn't be too hard. I have found, however, that they are a little finicky and sometimes even temperature/humidity dependent for ease of picking. The right conditions go a long way it seems. ~Grit.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 21 Dec 2005 16:08

The biggest problem is getting tools to fit them. You might have to do some modification to your tools, or make special ones.
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Postby digital_blue » 21 Dec 2005 16:22

grit1 wrote:I think they're only 3 or 5 pins


:?

I had thought they were 4... could be wrong tho.
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Postby grit1 » 21 Dec 2005 20:48

digital_blue wrote:
grit1 wrote:I think they're only 3 or 5 pins


:?

I had thought they were 4... could be wrong tho.


Sorry I meant 3 or 4, typo ...
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Postby kodierer » 22 Dec 2005 1:41

They aren't necessarily difficult to pick. I pick them using my slim line tools. You don't have to use a slim line pick, but its nearly impossible not to use a slim line tension wrench.
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Postby Cybernation » 22 Dec 2005 23:55

They are 4 pins or at least the box full I have here in the room are... I have found that if you use a diamond pick you can normally just rake it and it will open in about 10 seconds.
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