picked my first lock.

by **madasian** » 26 Dec 2005 0:49

I took the advice of some of the members of the forum and went out and bought myself a cheap padlock to practice on first. I am happy to report that I finally picked my first lock. It was a "CHATEAU" padlock. The feeling of picking your first lock is great. I used the raking method, now I'm gonna try the pin by pin method on the same lock before I move on to another one such as one of my Master lock. I just wanted to share my victory with the forum. Merry Christmas all!!

by **Buggs41** » 26 Dec 2005 0:58

Congrats! It is a good feeling to pick that first lock. Keep at it, and keep reading. I learn more and more here every day.

Buggs

by **digital_blue** » 26 Dec 2005 1:49

Congrats!

Have fun with that lock for a while, and learn all you can from it. I'd really recommend that your next lock be something like a deadbolt or Key-In-Knob though, as it'll allow you to disassemble it.

Just a pointer, when looking at buying a lock, try and take a peek at the keys it comes with. Look for keys that have large variations in the height of the cuts. This will give you more options when you're pinning the lock to make it harder on yourself once the easy stuff is behind you.

Once again, congrats and happy picking!

db

by **Buggs41** » 26 Dec 2005 9:13

I learn more and more here every day.

See what I mean. I just learned something from DB. Now I am going to bed.

by **madasian** » 27 Dec 2005 1:16

Thank you guys for all the support. I just bought a dead-bolt today. When I took it apart I found 4 key pins that looked the same and one that looked different. It was rounded on both end. It's a cheap lock so I don't think it's a security pin. Is it a setting pin? It was the first pin from the front of the lock. I hope it wasn't a setting pin or that it was of any importance because I loss it. If it was important than that means that I have to go buy another lock. Well I took it apart to repin it. I'm starting off with two pins thinking that it would be easy, boy, was I wrong! It's almost as hard. I don't know if I even put it back together properly. I post some pics of it tomorow so you guys can tell me wether I did it right. Well, thank you guys for all the help. Happy Holiday.

by **stlbolt** » 27 Dec 2005 1:40

You don't even have to put all the pins in the lock for it to work.. But if its to difficult take out some pins and start from there or find a easy varation and work your way up

And good luck!

And Id recommend you read about dissassembling (sp?) and putting locks back together

by **digital_blue** » 27 Dec 2005 1:43

Now you may wish to visit this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=10677

Cheers!

db

by **madasian** » 27 Dec 2005 19:21

I already read that thread. I already learned to take apart a lock and put back the pins that I want. It's just that I loss one of the pins and it's the one that's different from the other ones. 4 key pins are rounded only on one side but the one I loss is rounded on both end. My question is that the pin that I loss ( the one rounded at both end) is it a setting pin? Is it important? Is it like any other pins? I figured that it was rounded at both end for a reason right? I would take a pic of the pin in question but since I loss it, it's pretty hard to do so unless I buy another lock just to get that pin.There's only one pin like that in the lock. That is why I thought it might be important. So if it is important I would have to go buy another lock.

by **digital_blue** » 27 Dec 2005 19:32

Well, maybe someone will jump in and prove me wrong, but I can't see it mattering. You could probably replace that pin with any standard key pin and the lock would function fine. Of course, it would have to be the right length of pin if you wish the key to work but.... keys? Keys? We dun need no steenkin' keys!

db

by **vector40** » 27 Dec 2005 19:59

It does sound a little goofy, but it's hard to know what the deal with that pin was without seeing it, and as db said, for your purposes it almost certainly doesn't matter. If you can replace it with another pin, go ahead.

by **madasian** » 27 Dec 2005 20:55

The lock works fine without that pin. I was just curious if it plays an important role while picking. Such as when I try to set the first pin. I'm still new at picking and I thought that there is a pin that I must set first before I go on to pick the rest of the lock. Am I wrong? Don't I have to set the first pin ( the setting pin) into the shear line before I pick the rest of the lock? Or I just simply start picking from the backmost pin of the lock to the front or from the front to the back of the lock.
was that a confusing question? I guess I will have alot of questions to ask and some of them might even sound dumb but I did read the MIT already and that thing is really hard to understand. So please don't think that I'm being lazy and not wanting to research the site first. I really did. I appreciate all the help fom the members of the site. Once I get the concept and the mechanism of lockl picking, it will be automatic for my hand to just do it right? I still have alot of difficulty with the pin by pin method but the raking method is getting easier now. I guess one step at a time right? This hobby is teaching me to be patient in a very big way.

by **stlbolt** » 27 Dec 2005 20:59

The pin you are thinking of is the pin that is first stuck when you put tension on the lock, thats the pin you want to feel for and push up to the shear line, so that the next pin will get stuck and you just keep on going until the lock turns...

Simple as that (easier said the done, or so)

by **vector40** » 27 Dec 2005 21:10

The pin that sets first isn't necessarily (probably isn't at all) the frontmost pin in the lock. You have to test all of the pins to see which it is; it might be any.

by **Badmonkey005** » 27 Dec 2005 23:22

and if you try and push up a pin which is not binding the most, you run the risk of false setting it; making the key pin actually go into the hole right past the sheer line.

picked my first lock.

picked my first lock.

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