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by Chrispy » 27 Dec 2005 0:21
Interesting idea spQQky. 
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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by vector40 » 27 Dec 2005 0:50
That is interesting. How widely have you tested it?
That goes for everyone with these ideas, by the way. Working once ain't good enough -- try it EVERYWHERE. Different keys, different bittings, different locks, different days! "Reliable" is a tough standard when you're balancing it against versatility.
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by spQQky » 27 Dec 2005 1:31
Chrispy wrote:Interesting idea spQQky. 
Thanks Chrispy. Yaa...it just came to me while using my staple gun....hmmmmm....I wonder....No more whacking my thumb with a screwdriver handle or plastic hobby mallet.
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by spQQky » 27 Dec 2005 1:41
vector40 wrote:That is interesting. How widely have you tested it?
That goes for everyone with these ideas, by the way. Working once ain't good enough -- try it EVERYWHERE. Different keys, different bittings, different locks, different days! "Reliable" is a tough standard when you're balancing it against versatility.
Hi Vector40. I've only tested it with the locksets pictured. KwikSet, Defiant, GateHouse, & Schlage 5 pin doorknob and deadbolt sets, Master & MiniCo padlocks. Works every time on the first shot. These are the only sets in my practice picking & raking collection. They've all been abused hundreds of times. It should work on any set that's bumpable I would think, though different staple guns have unique snap impacts when fired so higher end locksets may require a larger or smaller impact. Try it out on your sets and see. Let us know?
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by digital_blue » 27 Dec 2005 1:46
Well son of a .... gun. Nice! This place has been ripe with cool ideas lately. Good thinking spQQky!
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by vector40 » 27 Dec 2005 1:49
What would really settle it is if the impact was adjustable. Any way the staple gun can be tweaked to modify the force?
It would be nice if we could quantify this stuff. Maybe we can measure the striking forces of these suggested tools under structured conditions. Any engineers out there? 
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by spQQky » 27 Dec 2005 2:35
digital_blue wrote:Well son of a .... gun. Nice! This place has been ripe with cool ideas lately. Good thinking spQQky!  db
Thanks D_B, always room for refinement tho...
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by spQQky » 27 Dec 2005 2:43
vector40 wrote:What would really settle it is if the impact was adjustable. Any way the staple gun can be tweaked to modify the force? It would be nice if we could quantify this stuff. Maybe we can measure the striking forces of these suggested tools under structured conditions. Any engineers out there? 
Exactly what I was thinking, Vector40. Coming soon...the Dyno Electirc Rechargable Battery Powered Variable Speed Automatic Bump Key Tool...JK...wellll....maybe not...
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by spQQky » 28 Dec 2005 16:50
Here's another bump mallet I found at the Harbor Freight store today. The one on the top of the picture is the Sears Craftsman with a wood handle, $10. US, already discussed elsewhere. The one on the bottom of the picture is the Harbor Freight one, part # 92363-39526 it's only $2.99 US. I couldn't find it listed on their website harborfreight.com so it may not be available in all areas. It works just as well for bumping keys as the more expensive Sears mallet at a third the price.

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by vector40 » 28 Dec 2005 18:44
It does seem like a VERY LIGHT (which you probably won't find) dead blow hammer would be almost ideal for bumping.
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by spQQky » 28 Dec 2005 19:59
vector40 wrote:It does seem like a VERY LIGHT (which you probably won't find) dead blow hammer would be almost ideal for bumping.
They're both pretty lightweight. The Craftsman weighs 6 oz. and the Harbor Freight one feels just slightly heavier, maybe 7 - 8 oz. Probably due to the metal handle shaft. The yellow plastic striking surface is flatter on the Craftsman and a bit rounder on the HF model. They both work equally well for bumping though.
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by digital_blue » 29 Dec 2005 2:17
I just got me a Tomahawk in the mail today.  Here's what I've got to say about it...
Does this tool improve the success rate of my bumping? Absolutely. Without a question, I find that I am able to open locks faster, with less strikes, less striking force, and I am able to open more locks than I could before. There really is something to the tool.
I set to work today bumping a dozen or so various locks that I have kicking around. All of them were either Schlage or Weiser, mind you, as between my collection of locks and my collection of bump keys, those are the only two crossovers atm.
Every single lock I tried to bump was successful today with the Tomahawk. This was not true of my alternate hammers.
So, though I've only spent about an hour or so with the tool so far, I would say that it's enough to convince me that it's effective.
P.S. I decided to post this in here because it's somewhat on topic.
Cheers!
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by spQQky » 29 Dec 2005 9:03
digital_blue wrote:I just got me a Tomahawk in the mail today.  Here's what I've got to say about it... Cheers! db
How the heck did you get ahold of that?? Did you get Omikrons KaBump, or the original Tomakawk?...and how can we get one?
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by digital_blue » 29 Dec 2005 12:59
spQQky wrote:digital_blue wrote:I just got me a Tomahawk in the mail today.  Here's what I've got to say about it... Cheers! db
How the heck did you get ahold of that?? Did you get Omikrons KaBump, or the original Tomakawk?...and how can we get one?
No, this is a genuine one. And... I just got it, ok?  As I understand it, they are, unfortunately, not for sale. For this very reason, I am eager to try out Omi's version, as if it is as effective as the original I'm sure it will be well received by the community.
I'll keep you posted once I have one of Omi's models.
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by Omikron » 29 Dec 2005 17:44
digital_blue wrote:spQQky wrote:digital_blue wrote:I just got me a Tomahawk in the mail today.  Here's what I've got to say about it... Cheers! db
How the heck did you get ahold of that?? Did you get Omikrons KaBump, or the original Tomakawk?...and how can we get one?
No, this is a genuine one. And... I just got it, ok?  As I understand it, they are, unfortunately, not for sale. For this very reason, I am eager to try out Omi's version, as if it is as effective as the original I'm sure it will be well received by the community. I'll keep you posted once I have one of Omi's models. db
KEbump is en route. 
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