Could you help about ITO & KALE (Turkish Brand Locks)

[Olcaytug]

I'm a beginner and I picked my lock a few days ago in one minute. It was a very simple padlock of the brand Kale.

Here in my country, these two brands are used everywhere, and I can't find any other brands. So I have to work with these.

Especially the brand "ITO" usually has extremely difficult entering, due to its irritating wardings. I thing this brand should be of European standards.

If anyone has ever worked on these brands... Could you give some hints, advises?

Regards...

[Olcaytug]

I have detected some mistakes about my language on the post above. Excuse me for my moderate English

[Shrub]

What is your country? Fill out yer profile

I dont know the brands but if your struggleing getting your picks in you need to make some thinner ones or thin yours down.

A euopean set mayu be the way to go.

Any chance of a pic of the keyway so we can see what your having problems with?

[illusion]

Kale = "Turkish Yale" perhaps

I'm just joking mate... could you perhaps get some photos to show us?

[Shrub]

Dont worry about your typing, its spelt better than most of my posts anyway

[Olcaytug]

Tomorrow I'll send the pictures of these locks Thanks for help
And I'm filling the profile right now

Regards...

[Olcaytug]

Here is the photo:


I have only made a slim line rake pick (between full hook and half hook) and a tension tool.

As I try to enter from left, near the warding on the right, I can't reach the 5th pin(and even 4th one is difficult). When I enter above the right warding (Inserting the narrow end of my tension tool at the top horizontally), I can't touch the pins!

Even if I reach the pins, I can't feel or manipulate them do to the force I need to apply as I move my pick. What can I do?

Please help!!!!

[illusion]

hmm.. where is the photo may I ask?

[Shrub]

You are angleing your pick arent you and not just lifting it up or down?

[Olcaytug]

Sorry,
I accidentally delete the photo.
here it is

[Shrub]

You should be able to reach your 4th and 5th pins when on the left, have you used templates for your picks and are they to the correct size?

[Olcaytug]

You are angleing your pick arent you and not just lifting it up or down?

Yes, I angle upwards to enter, then downwards to feel the pins.

Otherwise I can't enter at all

[illusion]

that's a Yale A1 keyway isn't it?...

just needs practice really... slimline picks work best on these.

[Olcaytug]

I used the Southord slim line templates. Actually I didn't try to make it precisely. Right now I'm working on one that will be precise.

But my pick could open the padlock easily.

[Shrub]

To be honest it looks a bit bigger (higher) than a A1 but either way its a pretty standard keyway and you shouldnt be having any problems.