Lock ID - Chubb lever lock?

[NKT]

Hi all. Quick ID question. Is there a Chubb deadlock with a 1.5" measurement between the door edge and the center of the keyhole?

The mother-in-law has got a job for me when we go up to visit, and I don't want to take more than I need, so the question is, does it take the detainers or the levers? The lock is about 20 years old, in a wood and glass door, and I think it is simply badly worn inside.

[Shrub]

And when you get there it will be a yale cylinder

[NKT]

Nope, I've got her to email me photos of it, and it says Chubb.

Main reason I asked was because the Chubb 3K70 I've got is 1.75" from keyhole to door frame, and that's one of the narrower ones.





Sadly, none of the keys have a code on them. Guess I'll have to take a set of detainers, levers and keys to cover both options! Easier than dragging the key machine up, though. The keyhole photo is useless, mostly white and blurry.

Just to check, the new style (Euro) levers are interchangable with the older ones, aren't they?

[Al]

That's a 3G115

[quacking_duck]

It's the Chubb 3G115 mate (old 114 without hard plate) from the picture. Keys look to be badly cut.

The lock uses the old 3G114 lever pack, but is different from the new Chubb 3G114E BS 2004 open ended lever pack which accommodates the new 20mm bolt throw.

Best bet if you don't want to take a key machine with you is to take the old levers out and rekey it with an old 114 lever pack and a couple of well cut keys. Better still, put an old 114 in its place with the h/p if it's an outside door.

Hope this helps,

Matt

[quacking_duck]

Sorry Al, I was too late!

[NKT]

Great, I'll take a set of levers and a new curtain and swap it over, and everything should be fine then.

Do the euro levers direct swap with non-euro levers?

Edit: That's a no then. I'll take an old style lever pack.

You are right about that Timpson's key being well wobbly, but what can you expect for just £6 a key?

[acl]

Nigel if it had been a 3k70 youdve been able to tell from the keys detainers 9 cuts,levers 7.
Cant get used to the 114 levers being called "the old ones" .I can remember the old ones!!

[pinky]

im with you andy, old , im getting that way.

they key only has 7 cuts so not 3K70 which wouldve had 9.

Nigel take a spare bolt too, just in case, though an old 3G114 lever pack will fit a dream, the 114e pack will not.

[ELC]

notice one key is from EDINA. is your M-i-l in scotlands capital. I'll e-mail you my mobile number if you want and then you can scrounge parts off me if necessary.

[NKT]

Shucks, too late seeing this last reply! Yes, we were on the top of the Mound for the bells and the fireworks! Watched Hayseed Dixie and some great break-dancers too.

Well, in the end I replaced it with a new BS deadlock. I took the lock out, opened it, and realised it was a tip inside. Half a ton of what I thought was metal shavings! Realised it was Graphite after a few seconds. Badly worn curtain was swapped, but still only one of the three keys worked from one side. Bit of rust on the case face, due to no external keyhole cover, and I think the levers are a little worn. One of the keys, the brass one, actually has two "sub-cuts" in it, where the levers have been repeatly jammed into it when the lock has been operated! Badly worn. The real fault was the dodgy key cutting, but it had worked fine since before the Big Number change to 0131! Main thing is, it wasn't a BS lock, but it is now.

Also tuned a few other things, and billed accordingly. A good start to the new year!