On EVVA MCS and KABA Penta....

by **SkyDancer** » 31 Dec 2005 16:20

Hi again.

I am just wondering have anyone heard of successful lock picking done on locks with the EVVA MCS and Kaba Penta keying system?

Or...as the key blank is strictly controlled...at least manage to decode it?

Curious:)

Thank you

Candice

by **webidiot2** » 31 Dec 2005 16:41

I'm pretty sure this is restricted topic because it is a high security lock, you can read the rules here.

by **illusion** » 31 Dec 2005 17:08

well she wasn't asked how to pick or decode it, merely whether it's been done or not... is this advanced really?

by **mcm757207** » 31 Dec 2005 17:13

illusion wrote:well she wasn't asked how to pick or decode it, merely whether it's been done or not... is this advanced really?

Nope, fair game for public forums as I see it.

by **Omikron** » 31 Dec 2005 18:20

mcm151201 wrote:
illusion wrote:well she wasn't asked how to pick or decode it, merely whether it's been done or not... is this advanced really?

Nope, fair game for public forums as I see it.

What he said. ;-)

by **digital_blue** » 31 Dec 2005 19:11

Omikron wrote:
mcm151201 wrote:
illusion wrote:well she wasn't asked how to pick or decode it, merely whether it's been done or not... is this advanced really?

Nope, fair game for public forums as I see it.

What he said.

What they said.

P.S. Do my eyes deceive me? Is there another gal on LP101?

db

by **Omikron** » 31 Dec 2005 19:41

digital_blue wrote:
P.S. Do my eyes deceive me? Is there another gal on LP101?

db

Shh....

You can only observe from a great distance or she might get spooked and run away... :wink:

by **illusion** » 31 Dec 2005 19:44

does nobody have a consructive answer to the question???

I'm pretty sure the Penta has been picked

by **Shrub** » 31 Dec 2005 19:48

Well im jst looking into the Evva now, its not been picked as far as i know and it does look like a formidable lock.

Zeke has a cutaway so he may be better to reply to that one as im sure he would have been playing with it.

by **SkyDancer** » 1 Jan 2006 1:02

Hi Guys,

Thank you for supporting my query:) Glad that most do not find my posting on EVVA and Kaba Penta to be out of line. As I am only curious on the success not the process of picking it:)

Definitely no intention to contradict the rules of this forum:)

And yes Digital Blue, I am a lady and ..no, i ain't connected to SkyStalker in anyway...And i am getting all spooked up..lol..

)

Cheers

Candice

Singapore

by **spQQky** » 1 Jan 2006 2:03

SkyDancer wrote:And yes Digital Blue, I am a lady and ..no, i ain't connected to SkyStalker in anyway...And i am getting all spooked up..lol..)

Cheers

Candice

Singapore

Me too !

by **wtf|pickproof?** » 1 Jan 2006 8:18

While I have never seen anyone picking a penta I can't see why it shouldnt be possible, it's a regular pintumbler, no security pins, 4 different pin-hights, and uhhm .... up to 25 pins.

by **TOWCH** » 1 Jan 2006 13:39

I expect John Falle has a decoder for the MCS. I don't know if any of the traditional dimple lock tricks work on the Penta, but I'm sure it's been done.

by **workstation** » 1 Jan 2006 16:20

I think people mention the Kaba Penta as a hard lock to pick because of the Toool video in which Han Fey and Barry Wels can't bump it. I can't remember exactly why they can't, but I think it is something to do with the shape of the pins at the point they touch the key; I could be wrong.

In principle, the Penta should be vulnerable to both kinetic picking and foil impressioning, for the reasons members have mentioned above. Kaba do use a wide variety of keyways and pin locations, which would make typical impressioning methods hard, but the picker can surely always find the shape of the impressioning key needed by simply examining the lock. Then it just becomes a question of machining the key.

Surely someone can confirm that this has been done? Or maybe it hasn't!

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