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Is this a Waffer Lock Key?

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Postby Varjeal » 12 Dec 2005 10:26

Likely that lock is bi-directional wafers, which would mean it IS double-bitted, which would also explain why you can't seem to pick it. Try raking it at both the top and bottom of keyway, and if possible take it apart, (but be careful for flying wafers as springs) to find out.
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Postby Shrub » 12 Dec 2005 11:12

Jason, to have the best chance you need to be useing a 2 pronged tension wrench, if you are using a normal one you may be holding some of the wafers down with it.

I would imagine your garage door is a 'T' handle and yes it will be a double wafer,

You should not have any problems, as varjeal has said put some light tension on and useing a ball pick slowly rake the top and bottom of the lock, dont press them up as far as they will go with it but rather start with a little and then work your way up.

If you are struggleing stop racking and carefully listen for any clicks when you slowly let the tension back off, this will be the number of wafers you had set.
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Postby jebus » 12 Dec 2005 21:14

To me it appears to be a 5 wafer lock.

Not double sided though, it is only double cut so people can insert it easily.
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Postby Jason13 » 13 Dec 2005 14:32

ok i had a we lookie in my lock got out the ball pick and wrench and when i applyed tension i used the very little at start and then raked the wafers but when i use tension it always makes the wafers hard to push up
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Postby vector40 » 13 Dec 2005 21:28

Less tension.
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Postby Jason13 » 2 Jan 2006 20:41

I was walking down the street that cars have wafers that i already knew that, but alot of them had like this metal plate that needs to be pushed side ways before you can even get acess to the actually wafers. Why is this.
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Postby illusion » 2 Jan 2006 20:48

it's called a dust-cover,

stops dirt and grime from entering as easily... and also makes it slightly harder for little thieves who might try and pick them.
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Postby Jason13 » 2 Jan 2006 20:50

There was a old trick you were able to do on Car locks years ago were you got a tennis ball and cut it in half then put it over the lock and punch it a few times and it use to put pressure on the we lever that you can push down to lock the car while in it.
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Postby illusion » 2 Jan 2006 21:13

hey jason... this technique still works on modern cars... It needs a small modification but it's the same principle...

now you fill the tennisball with sand and then press it up against you lock and punch it a few times... the lock should pop right open. :wink:

for best results use it on your parent's car door lock... it works a treat :wink:

it aligns the Plutonium Bicarbonate mixture which lubricates the lock and it just opens like magic.... although it worked better on Uranium locks.

although for better opening try using Mazola in your tennisball as well :wink:
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Postby Aqua » 2 Jan 2006 21:40

... Sand?Oh Illusion... Really...
Jason, try salt instead of sand - sand can get stuck inside the lock, but you can always use water to melt the salt.
It might take a while for the first time you do it, so it would be nice if it was a car that you have easy acces to -mabey your own? That's where most people start learning. If you don't have one - try with your brothers car, or something...

Just be sure to add a lot of pressure, as pressure is the key (but not as much to bend the door). The salt has to get well inside the lock, to push the pins, and all. If it still won't open, try to use a tension wrench, while pushing on the door. Pressure is the key! Good luck.

Hope it helped.
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Postby illusion » 2 Jan 2006 21:52

good job on the salt tip Aqua... the sand getting stuck in the lock was a bit of a problem - but yup the salt just gets washed away if you squirt lots of water into the lock.. just helps everything to clean itself off.

hmm.. nah, the door is meant to bend,.. I mean it's designed to do that in case there are any super-cool-guys out there who know how to use this technique.

One way to do this is have a friend of yours who owns a remote control car-key make a phonecall to you then point the remote at their mobile phone and the waves from this get sent to your mobile so all you need to do is point your ,mobile phone at the car and it will be open. Your friend can be on the other side of the planet, it doesn't matter the signal will still be transfered.

I found Mazola to work best but then again maybe there are better ways.

okay.. I think I've made my point :P
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Postby Wade » 2 Jan 2006 21:55

whats a waffer? :?
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Postby illusion » 2 Jan 2006 21:58

Wade wrote:whats a waffer? :?


it's the little chocolate stick you put in icecreams :wink:

nah, read my guide in the "locks" forum for a breakdown of them.
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Postby Shrub » 2 Jan 2006 21:59

Its a comedian with a lisp :wink:
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Postby Shrub » 2 Jan 2006 21:59

illusion wrote:
nah, read my guide in the "locks" forum for a breakdown of them.


Thought that was a wafer :?
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