Ingersoll, Where?

[SteveW]

Cheers Ju_ excellent pics

I think it is safe to say that this is a very secure lock!

I think that ingersolls switch to the Euro cylinders may purly be for the reason that Jdeacon suggested, that the cylinder does extend from the front of the door quite significantly and would provide a prospective theif a large target with a sledgehammer. The new Euro Cylinder versions are far less vulnerable to this kind of attack.

Once again thanks for the pics

[workstation]

Workstation just for you pictures of the old Ingersoll 10 lever installed on an internal door and your telling me this is not secure?

Beautiful pictures!

Of course the Ingersoll nightlatch is a secure lock. It just doesn't meet BS3621. I believe that one of the reasons for this is that it doesn't have a cylinder on the inside, one of which all BS3621 nightlatches must have. BS3621 is not a measure of security, as such; it's a measure of whether a lock meets certain specifications. These specififcations are:

a) Often completely inappropriate.
b) Designed to sell 5 lever deadlocks.

Once again, great pictures!

[SteveW]

I think you are right there
I suppose Ingersoll are doing there best to correct this, with the London Line. They say the both the mortice and rim lock are "designed to exceed the requirements of BS3621:2004".

As yet i dont know if the locks have yet been granted BS certification but i am sure they will in the near future, when they actually manage to catch up with the new British standerd