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New (?) User-rekeyable locks

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 29 Jun 2005 19:08

ultramax knockoff
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Postby ndgreen » 29 Jun 2005 20:28

Headhunter,

From what a quick Google has revealed, is it not the case that the Ultramax requires the removal of the plu to re-key, whereas this particular lock does not?

I am curious as to the response from you professional lockies (I just use my skills for work), as I am guessing that a large part of your income is the 'like-keying' of locks. If people can do their own, with a fair degree of security, it may be bad for business!?

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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 30 Jun 2005 18:37

unless there is some instructions missing it looks like you can swap out the plugs?

anyone else thinking this?

on say the kw 880 there is the core key that you pull the plug right out of the face of the lock

then you can rekey the core and reinsert it.

no dissasemble of the actual lock required .

or you can just buy another core and reinsert it.
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Postby ndgreen » 3 Jul 2005 17:24

Hi Headhunter (& others!),

You don;t actually swap out the core. I used in the day I took the photos, and the core remains the same, it's just the pin settings that are changed.

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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 3 Jul 2005 17:35

ndgreen wrote:Hi Headhunter (& others!),

You don;t actually swap out the core. I used in the day I took the photos, and the core remains the same, it's just the pin settings that are changed.

N.


well hell man dissect it and show us how the guts work
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Postby Shrub » 4 Jul 2005 8:45

I saw a simular thing at a recent show, it was from the philipeens (sorry for my poor spelling) and the keys had a coloured stripe around them, you used one set of keys and then if they went missing you put a differant key in turned it (i cant remember if you then pull it out or turn it back) you then insert a differant key and then that one worked instead of the original one, i am not sure whether it was a once change lock or whether you could change to a differant key each time or not but i was quite impressed and got a leaflet, when im back at the shop i will have a look for it and get back with a name and web address for it.
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Postby mupet » 6 Jul 2005 16:44

They are a wafer lock with a split wafer design and by turning the key to the neutral position and removing the gold key it unlocks the split wafer to allow the combination to be changed when the new key is inserted and turned back.
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Postby webidiot2 » 6 Jan 2006 4:08

Actually the lock is Italian, not Australian. Their website can be found here the patent can be found here.
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Postby skold » 6 Jan 2006 4:18

ndgreen wrote:Hey People,

Here are the images of the new lock I was talking about.

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img85.echo.cx/img85/7528/dsc19576cn.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img44.echo.cx/img44/2489/dsc19581rq.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img240.echo.cx/img240/2743/dsc19592yo.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img91.echo.cx/img91/39/dsc19602zk.jpg[/url]

The locks are Australian made (Queensland - Chrispy's neck of the woods!) by a company called RIELDA (model is called Gold Key).

The gold coloured key is the change key.

They also make oval cylinders, spherical locks, "high security' padlocks, double sided locks etc.

Any idea how they work?

N.


I was going to buy one of their padlocks, the package came with no key and said "see service desk for keys".
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Postby webidiot2 » 6 Jan 2006 4:19

Sorry for the double post but here is a diagram also http://home.comcast.net/~webidiot2k4/rielda.jpg
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Postby skold » 6 Jan 2006 4:21

ok, i should of bought the lock.. :evil:
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Postby skold » 6 Jan 2006 8:34

nd- did you have to purchase the key kit seperately, if so -

How much?

I'm off to bunnings to get me one soon.
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Postby devnill » 6 Jan 2006 18:44

webidiot2 wrote:Sorry for the double post but here is a diagram also http://home.comcast.net/~webidiot2k4/rielda.jpg


now i need one of db's smilies of a head blowing up...looks like a pretty cool design though
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Postby ndgreen » 8 Jan 2006 21:19

Skold,

No, the key came with the lock, but I can't remember how much it was.

Cheers,

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