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Newbie need some info please

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Newbie need some info please

Postby lock_tight » 12 Jan 2006 21:20

Hi guys im new to lock picking ive read almost all the Q&A section here about how locks work etc..

Now im ready to have a go at my first lock, what kind of lock should i concentrate on first to get me started. something fairly easy

Im from the United Kingdom and need some help choosing a picking kit for a beginner is this any good?

http://www.locksmith-tools.co.uk/acatal ... Picks.html

Thanks for you help guys, hopefully i'll get my first lock opened soon enough :wink:
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Postby lock_tight » 12 Jan 2006 22:02

just a little help please
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Postby SFGOON » 13 Jan 2006 2:35

You're makign a wise decision getting a basic set - don't throw away a bunch of money on spcialized tools at beginner level. Do you intend to pick lever locks or pin tumblers?
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Postby Olcaytug » 13 Jan 2006 3:32

You should buy "european/slimline picks" since you live in UK! European locks have narrow entries and sometimes even slimeline picks are difficult to insert for a begginer(like me)!

But be careful not to apply too much force on the slimeline picks since they can be broken easily (yesterday I broke one of my two homemade-picks, Today I'll make a few more)

Hope this helps
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Postby lock_tight » 13 Jan 2006 9:44

I would like to be able to pick both lever locks and pin tumblers. But as im a begineer i will start with pin tumblers.

Your right in saying the locks in europe are extremely small so inserting a pick could be very tricky indeed.

Are there any suitable picks on this website, please take a look for me.

Thanks

http://www.locksmith-tools.co.uk/
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Postby Shrub » 13 Jan 2006 10:27

Euopean picks dont break easy and if your homemade ones are doing then you are making them wrongly either by size or method.
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Postby lock_tight » 13 Jan 2006 15:15

I just picked my first lock :D

It was only a little money box, but i think there was three pins in the lock. Cant be sure as i lost the key years ago.

I used a tiny bent screwdriver for tension and a long pin for the pick
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Postby quicklocks » 13 Jan 2006 15:40

hi get a cheap set of picks from here:-
http://www.devonlocks.com/cgi-bin/cart/section/2/
and buy a cheap clyinder here:-
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 2&id=13647
try these then make 2 L shaped wires for non bs mortise lock.
hope this helps
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Postby digital_blue » 13 Jan 2006 15:46

Congrats on your first success. :)

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Postby Olcaytug » 13 Jan 2006 22:36

Shrub wrote:Euopean picks dont break easy and if your homemade ones are doing then you are making them wrongly either by size or method.


No I think I'm doing them correctly.

I copied the templates on some transparent sheets(I don't know what they are called in English, we call them acetate copy). Then I carve the blanks on my bench grinder and shape the details using my dremel. I'm not using the grinding tip of the dremel, instead I bought a tip used to sharpen motor hacksaw blades in order to prevent extra heating. They carve the material more slowly, so I don't make mistakes. I quench and compare the pick with the template after each individual stroke. After that I use a 800 degree grit paper first with water and then with paraffin.

The picks are not exact but I don't think I can make any pick more exact. They look the same when I put it near the template, although they differ by tenth of a milimeter, or so. Is this error too big for a pick with a tip of 1.2mm? I bought oven paint, but while cutting the templates, a greater error is intruduced!

One more question: I need to use too much force to insert the full hook further than 4th or 5th pin (6th pin is really very difficult to reach and I broke the pick while I was trying this!). The distance between the pins and the warding inside is less than the height of the hook. Even if I can insert, I push the pins a bit while moving the pick over the pins. Will this hinder the picking process? Is there any tip you can give to insert the pick easily in such a case.
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