KwikSet Lock Pulling

by **scientist** » 13 Jan 2006 10:06

I have seen the "lock in handle" kwikset lock pullers, and have taken apart a number of kwikset locks with a flat head screw driver...and cant for the life of me figure out how the heck you can pull a kwikset lock using those way expensive "kwikpull" devices without damaging the handle(the screw driver method leaves some very nasty marks on the door handle)

Anyone with one of these devices care to share with me just how they work and/or take some pictures for me? I would like to try and recreate one(or something like it) so I could pull locks out of some surplus door knobs I have to start a pinning kit(I got about 5 from a friend of mine that does demolition work, and itd be nice to have a box of lock parts ^_^)

-sCi

by **keysman** » 13 Jan 2006 15:48

The "puller" has a cup that fits around the knob , making the pressure equal all the way around.

here is a tool for $1.95 that works very well.
http://www.doityourself.com/store/keyingkitskwikset.htm

The same tool is available in the "you pin it kits" available at some Home depot's for around $10. includes a follower ,some pins, new keys, and the KW tool ++++ it has printed instructions on how to remove and replace your pins.

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 13 Jan 2006 18:35

right toool for the job and all that

the Kw tool is the best.

however should you find yourself with out said tool then you need to get creative to relerase those spring clips from the knob.

coming in from the backside with 2 long thin screwdrivers works well or make a tool out of a bicycle spoke.

essentially it is 10" of bike spoke bent back upon itself to from a long "U"

the mouth of the U should be about 1/2 ".

it will work just as well

or you can just insert a screwdriver from behing and hit it with a hammer until either the clips pop off of the lock face or they release.

carry spares if you use the last option

by **scientist** » 14 Jan 2006 5:04

What I have been doing is taking a flathead screwdriver and knocking the cylinder out of the doorknob, but that damages the door knob

As far as I can see the standard kwikset tool is a flat piece of metal...if I were to take some sheet metal(from an old computer case) and shape that in a similar shape, think that would be strong enough to work?

I am usually against purchasing stuff I can make, but for a little over $1 im really tempted...

The cylinder pullers I have seen are around $20(you can rip some people off for lockpicking tools...) and cup around the lock and use a "key" to stick to the pins, then a wingnut to release the whole thing...but if I really dont need that and can just shim out the cylinder, that would be ideal

Actually, let me find my tin snips, and I will report back how it worked ^_^

-sCi

by **Pickermeapie** » 19 Jan 2006 13:45

Isn't is sad that so many people trust their security to this lock?
Honestly Now.

by **scientist** » 20 Jan 2006 16:01

Little follow up to this, I ordered both the tools from that website(because heck, they were less then $5 a piece...) and what I recieved in the mail was a long piece of thick stamped sheet metal marked "cylinder removing tool", and the titan lock pulling "device" looked like a key blank with a notch cut in the bottom that said "control key"

Now comes the question...how the *heck* do I use these things? From looking at the website I thought the cylinder removers could fit in between the outside of the door handle and the lock piece, but its WAY too thick for that...and the "titan control key" doesnt seem to be anything special either

If someone has a rekeying kit with instructions, would they mind scanning it and sending me a copy? These tools seem like they are pretty decently made, but dont really give any instruction as to how they are used...

-sCi

by **vector40** » 20 Jan 2006 16:17

I would also like to know whether anyone has a clue why the call the d*mned cylinder removal tool a "pickle fork." What on earth is a pickle fork?

by **keysman** » 20 Jan 2006 17:33

vector40 wrote:I would also like to know whether anyone has a clue why the call the d*mned cylinder removal tool a "pickle fork." What on earth is a pickle fork?

Fork for pickles

For kw check here http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze4vx ... rekey.html

by **vector40** » 20 Jan 2006 21:19

I have NEVER seen a fork for pickles, certainly none that looks like that.

by **spQQky** » 20 Jan 2006 23:40

vector40 wrote:I have NEVER seen a fork for pickles, certainly none that looks like that.

Huhh??? You don't like to fork with your pickle??? I must be getting too old.
See here...http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html/104-5241820-4473512?node=13222061
Automobiles also have a pickle fork tool ...Google for it if interested. :shock:

by **digital_blue** » 21 Jan 2006 1:44

Well la-ti-da! Aren't we fancy! And here I've just been using any old fork for my pickles. Now if only I could find a good sour creme spoon and perhaps a knife fashioned specifically for bashing on the tightened lid of a jar of strawberry jam, I'd be set.

db

by **scientist** » 21 Jan 2006 7:50

That still doesnt answer what the "titan control keys" are for...they look like they could be a whole lot more fun

Also, I am looking into just getting some plumbing pipe, a keyblank and a threaded rod and just making the puller...the procedure with the pickle fork looks complicated for me to remember

-sCi

by **stevelock** » 21 Jan 2006 22:12

ok
titan (tool)control keys ------ is used to remove and install cyl
how its used ------------frist on the key thats working now put the same noch on the bottom of the key as the tool key has . this will turn in the lock and
now let you pull out the cyl.

after you rekey the lock to the new keys the tool key is used to put the lock cyl back in.

hope this helps

stevelock

by **scientist** » 22 Jan 2006 21:55

...maybe itll help me understand if I know what the actual control key does...does the notch catch onto something? Is it just there for asthetic value? The only titan-style lock I have is in my door, and i am not sure my roomate would be fond of me taking it out and messing around with it...

And is there anyway to rekey a titan without the original key?

-sCi

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 22 Jan 2006 22:10

scientist wrote:
And is there anyway to rekey a titan without the original key?

-sCi

ya pick it

or

the notch in the control key allows the lug that keeps the lock in the knob to clear the knob and the cylinder falls out.

with a regular key the lug is not allowed to clear the knob and the cylinder stays in the knob.

or just file the operating key on the bottom of the blade of the key where the notch is on your fancy titan core key

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