Bumping SFICs -- POLL

by **NKT** » 4 Dec 2005 7:34

If you read up a bit about bumpkeys, you will se that they are generally a little lower than the true 999 position, as well as the should and tip modifications.

by **amc31b** » 4 Dec 2005 9:21

But if you bought a depth key set and used the 9 key, all you would have to do is give each of the cuts a stroke or two with your file. Then file the shoulder and tip down as usuall. That is still alot easier than buying a key blank and filling all the cuts down to 9 yourself. and me personally, i seem to have equal if not better results using the pull-back method of bumping. So alot of times i would make several copies of my bump keys and file down the shoulder and tip on only one of them. Having a key dupicator copy a bump key becomes very difficult once you have taken off the shoulder and the tip. Just some food for thought! :wink:

Till next time kids!

by **devildog** » 4 Dec 2005 17:39

Ok, I know I should have replied to this a bit ago, but I just moved back down to New Orleans a couple of weeks ago and still don't have internet at my new apartment (old one got a couple feet of water :roll:

) so I'm forced to use the local cafe down the street, but as soon as I can get Cox up off their a$$es to get my bloody cable hooked up then things will be better...

Oh, and if you're wondering about New Orleans, it's really NOT bad at all; most of the businesses are open and the only thing screwy you'll notice is that their operating hours are a lot more limited than they would normally be (the bars are the only exception

). The reason for this is that there's just not enough people around for all the jobs, so you see things like stores offering $10-15 an hour and a $1000 signing bonus for entry level retail positions (cashiers). Almost nobody down here is paying less that $8-10/hour. There's 'help wanted' signs everywhere and I think that someone told be the Burger Kings are offering $8.50/hour and a $350 signing bonus for cashiers/burger flippers, so if you want to make $15/hour working retail, come on down...Oh, and there's HUGE demand for lockies too; I don't know what they're paying, but I imagine that it's probably at least 50-200% higher than usual, just like everything else.

Anyway, yeah I bumped a Best SFIC ONCE, and I haven't been able to replicate it, although I'll bet if I follow Keysman's advice and douse it with some Houdini lube I can do it again (I hadn't thought of that, but I should have :oops:

). If you haven't tried bumping a Best, just remember that the shoulder where you have to file is ON THE TIP (the bottom part of the tip; you'll see what I mean if you take a close look at it).

by **Auto45** » 5 Dec 2005 15:38

vector40 wrote:Buying depth keys is indeed a way of acquiring bump keys.

http://clksupplies.com/shop/index.php?cPath=25

They do work, don't use your master depth key. if you don't have a key cutter take you depth 9 key to a key shop have him cut you 5 or more, that way if you mess up you will have so extras

Or you can copy the master on top of a blank, and use a file and do it your self.

Once you get you depth key it up to you to figure out how to make a bump key with it. lots of posts on it.

auto

by **noorudeenshakur** » 5 Dec 2005 23:38

I own 3 best ic locks and have never sucessully bumped them. I can pick them faster than bumping them. I do believe locks that have more than one pin stack are harder to bump. I thought it was impossible untill I heard one member say he has done it. Again I find it easier and more fun to pick them

by **grit1** » 6 Dec 2005 2:02

Just got my depth keys today, and tomorrow I'm going to copy my 999 and try bumping a core. I'll post here what happens! Wish me luck...~Grit.

by **grit1** » 6 Dec 2005 20:02

grit1 wrote:Just got my depth keys today, and tomorrow I'm going to copy my 999 and try bumping a core. I'll post here what happens! Wish me luck...~Grit.

I've been trying my 999 key on two SFIC cores, one in the E keyway, the other in the BE2/A keyway. I have not had any success yet, but I believe my striker is the reason. I've been trying with a cushin grip electrician's style screwdriver handle, but I don't think the blow is accurate or firm enough. I'll try my platic mallet from home or make a tomahawk. Keep looking for updates. ~Grit.

by **noorudeenshakur** » 6 Jan 2006 20:24

Given you have not posted back in over a month, Ill assume you came to the same conclusions I did.

They pick far easier than they bump huh?

by **grit1** » 7 Jan 2006 15:42

noorudeenshakur wrote:Given you have not posted back in over a month, Ill assume you came to the same conclusions I did.

They pick far easier than they bump huh?

Yeah, not a lot of luck so far. It's really weird though, becuase I haven't tried it lately, as I've been on semester break from school, and for some reason when I'm at home I don't have a lot of desire to do lock stuff - I never thought I'd say that. I guess the "intellectual" atmosphere of college fuels my need to compromise locks. I have also gone back to work [full time] over break, which is why I've all but disappeared from the board...I'll be "back" in about a week though. ~Grit.

by **noorudeenshakur** » 10 Jan 2006 5:36

I know the feeling.

Ive been busy working so I havent been around as much as I would like to aswell

by **v12v12** » 13 Jan 2006 15:50

Hrmm... so I take it that since bumping is considered very difficult on these types of locks, what about using a snap pick? I assume that it would be just as, if not more difficult since it's just making flat contact with the pins...? I've made serveral snappers that work on most door locks and pad locks I have... but I've yet to try a SFIC (best)...

by **MudSlinger** » 21 Jan 2006 15:36

I have had nothing but success using bump keys to open, SFIC cores, It usually doesnt take more than 5 tries for any given lock. The only thing that has troubled me is that I have never once bumped the control sheer line despite all the stories I have heard. Oh and I solved the problem of drifting away from my lock hobby when having to work full time, just get a job at a locksmith. hell Im at work right now

P.S. WD-40 Is the devil GO Tri-Flow...(with teflon)

by **v12v12** » 21 Jan 2006 18:56

MudSlinger wrote:I have had nothing but success using bump keys to open, SFIC cores, It usually doesnt take more than 5 tries for any given lock. The only thing that has troubled me is that I have never once bumped the control sheer line despite all the stories I have heard. Oh and I solved the problem of drifting away from my lock hobby when having to work full time, just get a job at a locksmith. <censored> Im at work right now

P.S. WD-40 Is the devil GO Tri-Flow...(with teflon)

Hrmm... so do you think that a snap pick would work on a BEST/SFIC, since it's generally the same principle of transfering energy from the pick to the pins? I don't want to go all out and get BEST keys to file down, when I could just use my snapick...

by **keysman** » 23 Jan 2006 6:42

"I have had nothing but success using bump keys to open, SFIC cores,"

Mudslinger ,
I am happy you posted that !
I was begining to think I was "special"

or something.

I don't have any special tecknique for hitting the control... just luck

that and liberal doeses of the EVIL WD-40

by **vector40** » 23 Jan 2006 20:03

Do you use WD-40 for a reason, keys, or would another (less evil :-D) lube work as well?

Bumping SFICs -- POLL

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