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grinding

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

grinding

Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 11:33

Hi,
I saw some guides about making picks and tension wrenches,
but I have a question about it:
with what do you grind (allen wrenches and hacksawblades)? I know nothing about work tools :oops:

Thank you :)
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Postby Olcaytug » 20 Jan 2006 12:58

Buy some "bench grinder". You can find it any hardware store.

The cheapest ones are about 25USD, while you can find quality bench grinders up to 60-70 USD. But the cheapest ones would do very well.

But never forget to quench the tip after each stroke and keep it wet as much as possible!

Personally I would suggest you to use some hand-held grinding tool with some tiny tip for the details. You can fix the tool on a vice or even under your feet and shape the pick using your both hands.

These hand grinding tools are of a similiar price range, but if you want to buy a tool of the brand "dremel" (which usually have user defined variable speed which is unnecessary), you should give at least 70USD.

I would suggest the tips used for chainsaw sharpening for the details. Since they grind slower, They give you more control.

But if you can buy only one of these tools, go with a bench grinder. Hand-held grinding devices would cost too much for shaping the bulk of the pick since the tips do not last long.

And I would suggest never to try shaping picks using files. If you quench the pick after each second of grinding, grinders give better results. Furthermore you can make a complete set with a grinder in the same time you make a single pick using files.
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Postby Jason13 » 20 Jan 2006 13:07

And Bent wiper blades For Wrenchs :P
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Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 13:25

but how can I shape details with the bench grinder?
and does the bench grinder is less safe than the "dremel"?
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Postby illusion » 20 Jan 2006 13:30

the dremmel is less powerful... if you were to slip you'd do less damage then on a bench-grinder.

And I would suggest never to try shaping picks using files


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Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 13:33

What do you mean by files?

and... how can you shape details with a bench grinder?

thank you :)
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Postby illusion » 20 Jan 2006 13:49

Files:
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http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/j ... CF0046.jpg[/img]
sorry the photo is not zoomed-in but you should be able to get an idea..

The video Pyro made regarding grinding them will show you... it's in the FAQ section :)
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Postby illusion » 20 Jan 2006 13:51

I don't know what happened there... :(

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Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 13:57

Oh, I saw that video,
I can get a bench grinder for free, but how can I shape the details?
like... how can I make this tool with a bench grinder:
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Postby illusion » 20 Jan 2006 14:01

get the basic shape with the grinder, then use needle-files to complete it. that rake shape would be easy to replicate with a round file...
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Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 14:06

But the spring steel/hacksawblades are hard, how can I shape them
with a file?
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Postby Kodiak » 20 Jan 2006 14:31

The file is even harder, it will cut just fine. I'm not sure what is available in Israel but try to avoid buying files (or any hand tools) made in Korea, Hong Kong, etc. Pretty much anything made in Asia is garbage.
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Postby illusion » 20 Jan 2006 14:35

Kodiak wrote:Pretty much anything made in Asia is garbage.


that is a generalisation...
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Postby LightJedi » 20 Jan 2006 14:38

How long would it take to shape the tip of the pick?
(btw, when you say file you mean to that thing that illusiong showed, right?)

and... which basic shape should I do in the grinder? (I'm starting with a hacksawblad)

Thank you :)
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Postby bonez » 20 Jan 2006 14:43

watch the video again and you'll see!

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