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Tri-circle 265

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Tri-circle 265

Postby Perin » 18 Jan 2006 10:14

Hey, I've just gotten back from the forums from a little break. Basically I started picking a few months ago but gave up because I didn't have any begginer locks available. The first lock I bought was a tri-circle 265, and the second is a cheap globe that my dad had laying around. I can open the Globe by just shaking it sometimes (Yes it's that bad) but I've not been able to get the Tri-circle open. I've heard tri-circles are the devil. And ive read a few posts about'em.

What I really need right now is someone who can help me find out the order that the pins bind in. I know that there are atleast 3-5 spool/mushroom pins in it, but once I get the order done it'll be easy.

Also.. would I be able to put my padlock back together after using the hot stove-cold water pressure trick?

Much thanks in advance.
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Postby illusion » 18 Jan 2006 10:48

there is no need to use the heat methord... I made a guide for the 265 here:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=10665

you simply need a dremel, some screws, and a piece of plastic.

Hope this helps :)
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Postby Perin » 18 Jan 2006 10:51

Um, I don't have most of those tools.
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Postby Perin » 19 Jan 2006 5:14

Okay, I was going to edit my post but couldn't find a button for it or anything. So if double-posting is against the rules or anything, sorry. But you see I'm looking for some advice on picking this lock (I'd rather avoid taking it apart).. order that pins bind, position of security pins, etc.

I've been able to get 1-3 pins to set, pretty randomly.. but some tips from people who've tackled this one would help a lot. [By the way, this is my first lock.]
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Postby vector40 » 19 Jan 2006 5:40

This lock is (apparently -- I haven't tinkered) a nice example of how low-quality (in the usual sense) locks can be a bear to pick, just because you can't really figure out what's going on; it's like trying to argue with someone who doesn't speak any English. Theoretically it should be easy, but actually, it's difficult on the lowest level. Good stuff.
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Postby master in training » 19 Jan 2006 7:36

Basically, what vector is saying is go get yourself something different, not a tri-circle because they're quite often made that badly they're actually hard to pick!

Get yourself a lock from a house door or something where you can take all but the first pin out and practice and build it up from there. Search for a guide to picking by digital_blue, its a good post, I think it was made a sticky somewhere.
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Postby Perin » 21 Jan 2006 6:10

Righto. I went out to the hardware store and bought myself a Yale. Because that was one of the only other locks they had there. I'm not sure what model/type it is, it's got no numbers on it like the TriCircle. People really weren't kidding about the uncomfortable keyhole... The Yale is harder than the TriCircle to pick in some aspects. The keyhole is so awkward that I find it hard to reach the other pins [I'm using a slimline set made by Helix], are there any tips I could get for picking the Yale?

I don't even know if I've successfully set any pins at all.. =| I've really had no luck with lockpicking since I got my pick set. :cry:
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Postby vector40 » 21 Jan 2006 18:19

You may have traded a cheap-but-difficult lock for a nice-but-difficult one :) Make sure you haven't got any security pins.
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Postby Perin » 22 Jan 2006 2:12

Now you're confusing me. Could someone just tell me which is (overall) the easier lock? So I can start picking like made and concentrate on one of them?
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Postby illusion » 22 Jan 2006 7:55

I would say get a deadbolt lock, but if you are determined to pick padlocks I'd suggest the Yale... it is the lesser of two evils.

Tricircle 265 have 3 mushroom pins by the way :wink:
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Postby Perin » 22 Jan 2006 10:31

Fantastic news! I picked my first lock!

Basically I was sitting infront of the computer again fiddling with the padlocks. Trying all kinds of picks. Then I finally just decided to leave it. I go over to my bedroom door with a really negative mind set, I stuff a half-diamond in and start raking gently, Im not really paying attention... then suddenly, the plug TURNS. I've never ever picked any lock let alone a door knob before so I was surprised, I thought I'd broken it or something, then I accidentally fall foward and I realise the door's swung open. I was so proud, so bloody happy. So I try it again and I get the same lock under 20 seconds.

I found out it's a Kwikset. Never bothered to check my doors' brands. I now see why so many people love lockpicking. Thanks for all the help guys!

*My first lock in months- joy *
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Postby digital_blue » 22 Jan 2006 10:55

Well congrats Perin! Kwiksets have made more lockpickers than any lock I know. :P If you're willing to invest a few bucks to buy a deadbolt or Key-In_Knob cylinder to practice on, follow this link:

viewtopic.php?t=10677

Cheers!

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Postby jamesphilhulk2 » 23 Jan 2006 13:52

i have got two of those locks and still cant pick them i can set the first 3 pins then the pins just don't budge in the slitest any info on this would also help mr (it's doing my head in) i pravtice on it most of the day and i still cant get it open
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