Military Help - model 8077

[HKW]

I was drilling this weekend at my battalion HQ, the first drill back for my unit after returning from Iraq (I did'nt get to go. ), and some active duty personnel had changed the combo's on the locks. Upon demostrating my 'knowledge' of this particular lock to the unit, they gave them to me to see if I can get them open. I have three in my possesstion and I think they are one step from going into the trash. I realize that I cannot be 'given' a bypass *if one exists* However, I need to know if one REALLY does exist and where I can find a locksmith or someone to bypass them. (or maybe its cheaper to get new ones?)

HKW

For those interested:
SW3 Harry Woods
Navy Mobile Construction Battalion 24
Headquartered Huntsville, AL.

[eric343]

There are two bypasses:

a) Find an x-ray machine.

b) Use a drill.

They're basically safe locks in padlock clothing.

[n2oah]

There are two bypasses:

a) Find an x-ray machine.

I believe they have 20 minute X-Ray protection as well.

[HeadHunterCEO]

buy some new ones

[eric343]

Really?

The cutaway I photographed had metal wheels, though it might have been an 8088.

[zeke79]

As for these locks, I am not real knowledgeable. I do however know that the 8065 was patented in January of 1953 while the 1951 & 8088 were patented in March of 1954 along with the 8087 being patented in October 1970. I think there are variations of some of these such as the 8087 AB, AC, and AD models.

[Shrub]

Dont throw them away, sell them, i want one

[HKW]

Yeah, I read S&G recommended tossing them; however, I felt as though that may be a bit prejudice since they SELL the dang things.

I read about drilling, in the sense of making a small inspection hole. While that may indeed save the lock, I'm sure the government wants a 'virgin' lock..

I'm curious as to whether the X-raying method would work. Considering its short 10min/30min protection, I'm betting that xraying might work. But then I would need access to an X-ray machine.

Sounds like we need new ones..

Thanks!
HKW

[CPLP]

What about selling them?

[Chucklz]

There is a way to drill them, then repair the drill holes so they are as functional as originals. However, the Govt does indeed demand an unmodified lock for use. Try the obvious combinations, 10-20-30, 0-25-0, 0-0-0 and of course combinations set on 0 and 5.

[TOWCH]

Eric, do you still have those pictures you took? Any reason why graphing shouldn't work?

[devildog]

Any reason you can't manipulate them open?

[TOWCH]

Without having seen the inside, it feels like the lever nose is rectangular with a drive cam to match. It can do this because the fence is driven in to the wheel pack by the shackle. I had another go at making a device for measuring give in the shackle with not much more luck the second time.

[EOD]

If you still have those locks, HKW, there are portable x-rays used by the Army EOD guys on Redstone Arsenal, AL. There's a training det. there that, I'm sure, would love to take some x-rays for you. As I said, if you have them, and want to give it a shot let me know and we can set something up.

[xlr8ed1]

i know i am kicking old threads here but i have been away for so long.

Firstly i have posted a way of getting into these locks but the info got shifted to the restricted section i think and i stopped posting for a while and hence i can no longer access that section - try someone who can though. Basically you drill a tiny hole in the back about xxx cms up and xxx mm's across from the change key hole in the back and then with some wire use the "fishing" method and you work the code out. This is not picking i know but you look like the king when you open it. And time is money so you are not going to try every number combo.