New 3 in 1 design home-made pick...You should try it!!!!!

by **Knows-Picker** » 25 Jan 2006 16:38

OK, I was messing around w/my dremmell today, and came up with a new design on a rake/tension wrench combo.....I started by using a thick wiper blade insert, and making a twist flex tensioner...then on the flat side, I used a 7/32 size dremmell chainsaw sharpener#455 to do the large "divets" on one side, and then a 5/32 part # 453 for the small divets on the other side...what I ended up with is a rake on each side, that both have different opening properties, and a twist flex tensioner to boot.....The pics included are in my yahoo photo album...I hope that they allow us to post them like that, if not...Let me know how to do it...They are with a logitech webcam...so quality is ok, but not great...try to make it, and you will be suprised!!!!! It is sooooooo easy and quick, and it works to open locks like bogata/"s"rake/"L"rake....only for some reason it seems ALOT faster for me atleast.....give it a try and let me know what you think.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/andyburnham/album?.dir=/7b0a
The link above is for my Yahoo Photo album....there is only 4 pics...but you get the point.[/list]

by **illusion** » 25 Jan 2006 16:44

oh... I thought this would be about lever locks

but anyway your idea seems good.

However the link seems buggered so I can't really say.

by **Knows-Picker** » 25 Jan 2006 17:29

I don't know why the link didn't work...Just cut and paste it in your browser window, I checked it,...It works that way.

by **illusion** » 25 Jan 2006 17:36

Okay... the link works now...

looks okay, but the photos are a bit small.... does the longer handle have any advantages/dissadvantages?

by **Omikron** » 25 Jan 2006 17:41

Looks awfully similar in concept to raimundo's bogota rakes...

It doesn't look like the stress would be evenly distributed in your pick, and it may fail after some use. Let us know how it works out for you over time.

by **Knows-Picker** » 25 Jan 2006 19:57

well the handle really insn't that long...but the reason it is the way it is id for the tension wrench to feel comfortable to me, I like the "pick" part to be as long as my index finger, and thats where I put the twist/flex bend on the wrench....Thats just my preference, it just feel more natural in my hand that way, I hold the little bend with my middle finger, and then use my index and curl it around the pick.....As far as how it will "hold up" ..I own well over 200 locks, however I am on the road living in a hotel right now, so I only took 47 with me....(why 47? I don't know just happened to be 47) and I have picked all of the about 15 times through and there is no sign of wear or bending on the pick at all....like it said, it is so easy to make, takes about 8 mins to do it including the polishing with the dremmell, and then you have 2 rakes that will open just about all 5 pin keyways and padlocks with a little patience, practice, and sometimes a combo of rake/jiggle/rake...but I haven't found one of my "Road" locks that I can't open with them...And they include master commercial version..master 1,3,5,220,230,Ilco keyways,Ace keyways,corban,ez-set,kwikset,hibbard,and a few that I don't know what they are but won them in a bulk lot on ebay....Like I said I think its worth 10 minutes...check it out....

by **Knows-Picker** » 28 Jan 2006 3:49

So has anyone tried it out yet? I am curious if it is the design, or if it just works for MY style...Let me know what you think please.

by **Omikron** » 28 Jan 2006 5:18

Knows-Picker wrote:well the handle really insn't that long...but the reason it is the way it is id for the tension wrench to feel comfortable to me, I like the "pick" part to be as long as my index finger, and thats where I put the twist/flex bend on the wrench....Thats just my preference, it just feel more natural in my hand that way, I hold the little bend with my middle finger, and then use my index and curl it around the pick.....As far as how it will "hold up" ..I own well over 200 locks, however I am on the road living in a hotel right now, so I only took 47 with me....(why 47? I don't know just happened to be 47) and I have picked all of the about 15 times through and there is no sign of wear or bending on the pick at all....like it said, it is so easy to make, takes about 8 mins to do it including the polishing with the dremmell, and then you have 2 rakes that will open just about all 5 pin keyways and padlocks with a little patience, practice, and sometimes a combo of rake/jiggle/rake...but I haven't found one of my "Road" locks that I can't open with them...And they include master commercial version..master 1,3,5,220,230,Ilco keyways,Ace keyways,corban,ez-set,kwikset,hibbard,and a few that I don't know what they are but won them in a bulk lot on ebay....Like I said I think its worth 10 minutes...check it out....

Please, please, please use paragraphs. Your current writing style is not very easy to read and understand, and makes people less willing to read what you have to say.

That being said, I think I already mentioned that raimundo has made some similar "bogota" picks that are based on the same principals. If you do a quick search about them you can come up with tons of pictures and reviews. Your version of this tool looks a wee bit different, although I don't know if that necessarily makes it any better or worse for picking.

Maybe you could try getting some bogotas and comparing? :-)

by **wtf|pickproof?** » 28 Jan 2006 8:44

Hmm, strange noone came up with this idea before. (At least as far as I'm aware) I really like the idea and will give it a try as soon as I manage to find time for it. I'd really like to see a better foto of the pick end.

by **silent** » 29 Jan 2006 10:47

Ive made my share of picks similar to that one. The head on yours looks like it has some weak spots where it can break off easily in the lock. A tip for pick making is draw your pick out on paper and look at it carefully before cutting it out. You can figure out a lot of "bugs" before you spend that much time finishing a pick. That pick design similar to the bogota rake is almost creepy how effective it is though.

by **Knows-Picker** » 29 Jan 2006 16:12

its funny that everyone keeps saying that they are like the bogatoa picks, because I can make every type of pick pretty easily EXCEPT the bogatas. I always screw them up.

As far as the "Weak" spots, I have used this pick and opened about 90 locks now, atleast 30 times each. Some well over 100 times. Still no sign of wear or bending.

Sorry about the picture quality, I am using a shisty mini web cam. I will try to get better pics on here this weekend comeing up when I go home.

by **Bud Wiser** » 1 Sep 2006 20:29

Here is my first attempt to make bogota style picks. Rather then start a new thread I thought it might be fun bringing this one back to life.

The first one I made was a bogota attempt, pictured on bottom looks terrible, has weak points, but nevertheless works pretty good! I decided to try some thing different. And modeled my next rake after my favorite peterson rake. This one works on more locks.

In this photo I have a Peterson Rake for comparison on top, first pick. Second pick or the one underneath the Peterson is my second attempt to make a rake which I decided to design more after the peterson, and the bottom pick was my first attempt ever to try to make a botoga style pick.

The weak bogota pick I made actually works pretty good on some padlocks and doornob locks! My modified peterson rake is on of my favorites now. I'm definitely going to make some more picks. I just wanted to share what I have done so far so that others can see even if they are not perfect, they still work.

Equipment used

windshield inserts from a heavy duty 24" wiper
grinder
dremel
miniature files
blow torch
vice grip
pliers

ok here they are, laugh all you want but they work fine

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131 ... picks1.jpg

Of course with more practice I plan on getting better too. I want to try another attempt to make a bogota.

by **VashTSPD** » 1 Sep 2006 22:38

the top one looks like the popular W style (*I think*) rake that I've seen a lot of pictures of, I have one from SO. Except yours doesn't seem to have the weak spot a few people were claiming it broke at. how well does it work?

by **Bud Wiser** » 1 Sep 2006 22:43

VashTSPD wrote:the top one looks like the popular W style (*I think*) rake that I've seen a lot of pictures of, I have one from SO. Except yours doesn't seem to have the weak spot a few people were claiming it broke at. how well does it work?

It's my favorite rake, which is why I wondered what would happen if I added a third bump to it. I've beat the hell out of it, hey I'm still a noob, and not even the slightest sign of wear. I've only seen Peterson make it like this. I have SO, and HPC, but could not find one like this.

New 3 in 1 design home-made pick...You should try it!!!!!

New 3 in 1 design home-made pick...You should try it!!!!!

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