hacksaw blade key copy

by **What** » 27 Jan 2006 17:53

well i am bored today so i just made a copy of one of the keys to my many masterlocks....

with a hacksaw blade...

the best part is, it works.

by **What** » 27 Jan 2006 17:56

i meant to also ask, has anyone else(on LP101) ever done this?

by **illusion** » 27 Jan 2006 18:20

I made some ages ago...

one is for a Squire stronghold, and the other for a Tricircle.

by **digital_blue** » 27 Jan 2006 18:51

My very first experience that was loosely lockpicking related was when I was 14 or 15. I made a quick trace of my house key on paper, then cut out a duplicate on some thin plastic. I didn't really understand much about how a lock worked at the time, but I was stunned when I put the "key" in the lock and was able to turn the plug with a small flat screwdriver. I guess it's along the same lines, though it was probably quicker and easier than using a hacksaw blade.

db

by **illusion** » 27 Jan 2006 18:57

I used brickstrap.. perhaps 10 mins to do, if that

by **Chrispy** » 28 Jan 2006 2:58

This only works on a small array of locks with little-to-no broach warding.

by **What** » 28 Jan 2006 3:51

Chrispy wrote:This only works on a small array of locks with little-to-no broach warding.

huh?

it works on my masterlocks, a schlage deadbolt, a kwickset deadbolt, and some no name locks.

what is broach warding?

by **digital_blue** » 28 Jan 2006 13:04

This works on a whole lot of locks that are common in north america. For the tighter keyways, the thin plastic will work even better because it can bend around the wards. But it wont work on anything with a paracentric keyway.

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by **Olcaytug** » 28 Jan 2006 18:26

Why did you bother with a hacksaw blade? It is too strong to cut; there is no need to such a strength in keys...

by **illusion** » 28 Jan 2006 18:29

I've pondred over making bumpkeys out of brickstrap... I guess I should try it sometime

by **What** » 28 Jan 2006 19:18

Olcaytug wrote:Why did you bother with a hacksaw blade? It is too strong to cut; there is no need to such a strength in keys...

i used hacksaw blade b/c it took <5mins to make with my dremel...

and it is strong

by **Chrispy** » 28 Jan 2006 22:49

What wrote:huh?

A lot of locks have a broaching that would hinder the use of a flat key (ie. hacksaw blade) unless the key was made with only top broaching (most often a vertical blade) and without the rest of the broaching shape. For example, your Master Lock 'key' was made with only half the height to it, which would be the top broach warding.

Depending on the strength of the blade and the tension on the plug, you might sometimes need a tension wrench (time-consuming to get a broken 'key' out of a lock.

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And a lot of restricted broaching would require someone very handy with moulding metal to get the right broaching shape on a 'key' with a tall enough piece of blade to cover all 9 cuts.

by **eric343** » 29 Jan 2006 2:04

illusion wrote:I've pondred over making bumpkeys out of brickstrap... I guess I should try it sometime

The nice thing about bumpkeys is the keyway warding allows only one-dimensional key movement. The impact of the hammer is transmitted more efficiently to the pins as a result.

Since this accounts for the advantages of a bumpkey over a pick gun, you might as well make a pick gun...

by **illusion** » 29 Jan 2006 7:38

I just wondered whether it would actualy work.

I'll give it a go for the sake of it, and see how it turns out.

by **Kodiak** » 29 Jan 2006 9:17

I've pondred over making bumpkeys out of brickstrap... I guess I should try it sometime Smile

Are you thinking along the lines of a universal bumb key? One that could be used on any lock that it reasonably fit?

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