Mul-T-Lock Key

by **pizarro** » 1 Feb 2006 19:17

I took apart a Mul-T-Lock that is contained within a standard Euro shell to try to figure out what the two bits of metal within the key that are surrounded with plastic are for. I though that they might have been a magnet for a sigle hidden magnetic pin, but after looking at the cylinder I can't see that they do anything.

Anyone know what i'm talking about?

Luckily the holes drilled into the shell made putting the driver pins back into their place very simple, so i have managed to put my lock back together

Oh...

I belive that Mul-T-Locks might be covered in the advanced section, but as I am too new to the forum to apply for access, I can't post this question there. if i'm not allowed to ask this here I do appologise.

by **n2oah** » 1 Feb 2006 19:47

What you have is the Mul-t-Lock interactive. Interactive means the key interacts with the plug of the lock to set a pin. The interactive pin (second pin) doesn't vary at all from the other pins in the lock except that it is set by the metal part in the key. What happens is that the key slides in, then once it is in all the way, the dimple in the bottom of the plug will pop up the interactive feature in the key to set that pin. Here is a diagram of the Interactive feature:
{Photo snipped out until Nick and I can sort this out

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by **wtf|pickproof?** » 1 Feb 2006 19:50

nice pic n2oah

by **pizarro** » 2 Feb 2006 5:23

Thanks for the info, I will have to take my lock apart again to see if I can find it then.

by **pizarro** » 2 Feb 2006 16:52

The sneaky devils don't put the interactive pin in the same place for all their locks. Mines in pin 1, but i've seen a picture of a key with it in pin 2. When I get round to trying to pick this it should be nice and challenging.

Unfortumately thats not likely to be soon :cry:

by **Pickermeapie** » 2 Feb 2006 23:07

Are you sure of this? I have never known the interactive to put it in different spots. I do know, that there are different size interactive pins, there by thwarting Bump-ers.

by **mckutzy** » 2 Feb 2006 23:15

my lock has pin 2 for the interactive pin.

by **zeke79** » 2 Feb 2006 23:20

Nice pic, N2oah, where did you get that without my permission to use it for personal use only!! I'd like to see an email from your Euro contact that validates your posting of the picture!!

by **n2oah** » 2 Feb 2006 23:30

Are you being sarcastic Zeke, or are you serious?

Anyhoo, I found that pic on a google search for mul-t-lock interactive. As you can see, it is hosted on my photobucket account, but it still has a watermark on it.

by **zeke79** » 2 Feb 2006 23:44

WOW! I apologize Noah!!! Contact me on MSN if you get a chance and I'll explain motive. I am just an arsehole I guess!! Either that or you are the UBER goggle hound

.

For here and now, A PUBLIC APOLOGY has been issued to Noah from myself!!

by **pizarro** » 3 Feb 2006 5:13

Where did the prity picture go.....

anyway, my Mult-T-Lock has the interactive pin in location 1, this means one of several things when combined with the line "This product can be keyed alike or master-keyed with other Mul-T-Lock high security products" that is contained on my packaging.

1. For this product to be keyed alike with a key with the interactive pin at location 2, they have to replace the cylinder, as you cannot move the interactive pin. This basically changing the lock and invalidating the product description as you basically need a new product.

2. For this product to be keyed alike with a key with the interactive pin at location 2, the interactive pin does not add any security. If two different locks with the interactive pin in different locations can be keyed alike, then it ain't doining anything. So the interactive pin would be a marketing gimmic.

Or 3 (which I like the best

). Is that all the photos on the internet depicting the interactive pin in location 2 are FAKED, it is basically one huge conspiracy with all u people in on it and my door will soon be bashed in and I will be draged away.... *BANG* ..... Argh .... They are after me !!!!!

by **n2oah** » 3 Feb 2006 9:34

It's okay, Nick.
If any of you really want to know where I got this from, search "interactive lock" on google and it should be the fourth row down and in the first column.
Here is the direct link.

by **Shrub** » 3 Feb 2006 9:43

On all my locks its the first cut as well,
I have to admit ive never seen one with it elsewhere,
Live and learn, live and learn.

by 11 » 3 Feb 2006 10:48

Just to chip my two pence in, the interactive pin on my lock is in the first pin location as well?

Has anyone tried searching the patent office for an explanation? Or is that just me being endless?

If I find anything i'll post it on here

by **n2oah** » 3 Feb 2006 17:39

I have only seen the Interactive pin in the second pin.

Bumping of the interactive is not "thwarted" by different sizes of the mobile element in the key, but it is made a tiny bit more complex. I have only seen two different sizes of the interactive element. Therefore, you could have one key (cut both sides) with both sizes of the interactive part on it. If one doesn't work, flip the key over and try the other size.

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