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My First Cut-Away Cylinder

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My First Cut-Away Cylinder

Postby illusion » 5 Feb 2006 8:44

As of late I've become interested about cuttaway cylinders, so I sat down the other night and got to work making one myself. The lock is an Iseo Euro-profile, and took perhaps 1 hour to make using only a hacksaw and needle files - it looks pretty rough, and hopefuly the next one I make will be better, but it actualy works perfectly, which is more than I was expecting for a first attempt.

5 pin lock, 3 spools... it is actualy the exact same lock I posted videos of bumping upon.

Photos:

Pins set as neutral:
(you'll no-doubt notice I cut too far on the first pin... oh well lol)

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Key inside:

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Key turned:
(you can see the somewhat shoddy cutting of the plug)

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The plug pulled out slightly to show the cuts:

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Please tell me what you think, and if can give any advice for future cut-away locks it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks all :D

B.
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Postby jordyh » 5 Feb 2006 8:49

Yay for cutting plugs.
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Postby Keyring » 5 Feb 2006 9:57

Thanks for sharing. I'm tempted to try on my Abus euro. It may give me some picking pointers. Do you find that filing away part of the pin hole changes the feel when picking, it's always been my concern? There could be new edges to catch on.
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Postby illusion » 5 Feb 2006 10:41

hmm... well it functions fine, but obviously you're aware you need to file the edges of the holes properly so they are smooth. I haven't really noticed any difference since I made it in terms of picking.
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Postby Shrub » 5 Feb 2006 13:36

illusion wrote:Please tell me what you think,


Its crap.

illusion wrote:and if can give any advice for future cut-away locks it would be greatly appreciated.


Dont do another.








:lol: :lol: Im only kidding, thats a supurb effort and not shoddy at all, its not difficult once you get started and this is the results you can gain with time and care.
All credit to you mate, job well done now go and do an MCS lol.
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Postby Raccoon » 5 Feb 2006 14:23

I like this style of cut-away. Very nice.

I'm only curious why you feel you cut too far on pin 1. What if you were to cut the whole way around the cylinder, and down one side of the pin shafts and one side of the plug? This way you can watch the plug turn in either direction, and also allows more light in to see better.

If you become really good at these, would you be willing to sell them? :)
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Postby illusion » 5 Feb 2006 14:27

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks mate :D

Hopefuly I'll get better and make some more.

Thanks for the encouraging feedback to those who bothered :)
I'm only curious why you feel you cut too far on pin 1. What if you were to cut the whole way around the cylinder, and down one side of the pin shafts and one side of the plug? This way you can watch the plug turn in either direction.


Cutting any further doesn't serve much of a purpose... it was the movememnet of the pins which I was most intersted in, but I guess It wouldn't hurt to simply cut the other side so you are able to see the plug turn fully... worth baring in mind, thanks :)

The style was 'borrowed' from the one on theMultipick website, but it didn't have the plug cut so it's not a full spin-off :wink:
If you become really good at these, would you be willing to sell them? :)


When I am able to make them without the small errors people would object to, which are present in the one I just made, I'll perhaps sell a few on Ebay... Thanks for your response :D

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Postby zeke79 » 5 Feb 2006 15:18

Very nice illusion! You're well on your way indeed. I just finished up an anchor las padlock that had been sitting on my desk for about 3 months now. All it needed was some slight finishing work, but time is somewhat of a problem these days.
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Postby illusion » 5 Feb 2006 15:22

Thanks a lot Zeke :D

I'd be interested in seeing the Anchor padlock cut-away... were you planning on posting photos?
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Postby jordyh » 5 Feb 2006 15:24

I'll try that on a winkhays cilinder i am willing to cut up.
Probably will do it sometime next week.
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Postby zeke79 » 5 Feb 2006 15:28

jordyh,

Why not send me that winkhaus and I'll send you something else to cut up :cry: .

I'll post some pics of the anchor las later if I get a chance.
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Postby jordyh » 5 Feb 2006 15:32

zeke79 wrote:jordyh,

Why not send me that winkhaus and I'll send you something else to cut up :cry: .

I'll post some pics of the anchor las later if I get a chance.


Now why would i send a perfectly good winkhaus to you, my dear zeke?

Actually, i've got a small stack of winkhaus cilinders (my old job was at the wholesaler in industry, and dealer of winkhaus, abus, and corbin locks), and i've got this particular brass-coloured one that i'm just dying to cut up to show my classmates that it's not magic that i'm doing.

But on a more serious note, why on earth would you want a winkhaus? :P
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Postby illusion » 5 Feb 2006 15:36

But on a more serious note, why on earth would you want a winkhaus?


Having picked it:

the nasty wards, the security pins.... and the ability to shout:

TAKE THAT, lover!

when you finaly pick it :wink:
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Postby zeke79 » 5 Feb 2006 15:42

I actually have a small collection of winkhas cylinders. What model are you going to cut? Is it just a standard AZ model or the model that is a step below (I cant remember the model off the top of my head? I was simply offering to make a trade of a similarly valued lock if you were going to be cutting a VS, titan, or X-tra. I am sure I have something laying around here that may be harder for you to get your hands on where you are just like the winkhaus are fairly tough for me to get ahold of.
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Postby jordyh » 5 Feb 2006 15:47

zeke79 wrote:I actually have a small collection of winkhas cylinders. What model are you going to cut? Is it just a standard AZ model or the model that is a step below (I cant remember the model off the top of my head? I was simply offering to make a trade of a similarly valued lock if you were going to be cutting a VS, titan, or X-tra. I am sure I have something laying around here that may be harder for you to get your hands on where you are just like the winkhaus are fairly tough for me to get ahold of.


Hm, even though this should go into buy/sell/trade... let me mill it over.
If you want a few winkhaus cylinders, my old boss donated a few to my cause a while ago, so i can part with one or two.
wou'd be a nice thing to try to pick something else than winkhaus.
I'll make a picture of what i have in a moment, give me 15 minutes.
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