"school in a box"

by **YellowSnow** » 6 Feb 2006 0:43

Hey everyone, I'm a total noob to these forums. I tried to get into lockpicking a few years ago, but lately I feel the need to learn how to. I own a simple lock pick set, and a set of jigglers. I'm thinking about purchasing this, but I'm wondering if it's worth it. I have the spare money, so it wouldn't hurt me financially. I'm just wondering if it's better to just buy some cheap padlocks and work those. Thanks!

by **Chucklz** » 6 Feb 2006 0:52

That kit is a rather a ripoff. Especially from a spysite. Check out our sponsor for practice locks, or just buy a kwikset deadbolt, and take out a few pins and begin there. A quick search for MIT guide will set you up for a great introduction to picking.

by **YellowSnow** » 6 Feb 2006 1:01

Thanks man, glad I came here before I bought it. How easy is it to take apart a lock? I didn't know it was even possible to take one apart. Do you think it would be better to buy a practice lock or buy a deadbolt from Wal-Mart?

by **YellowSnow** » 6 Feb 2006 1:07

Actually, this set right here looks pretty good. I have a 5 piece pick set, which is currently lost, so I'll need to be buying some picks anyways. Or should I just buy the picks, and then buy a padlock up at a local store?

by **Chucklz** » 6 Feb 2006 1:28

I learned to pick without a cutaway cylinder. That was helpful in a way. But, now that I have a cutaway, It is one of the available locks that I let newbies play with. The Southord PSX14 is the kit I started on as well. I would recommend that you get a kwikset deadbolt anyway. You will want to practice with more than 3 pins in a fairly short time.

The choice of pickset is almost a religious war here. You will find most people favoring sets with metal handles though. This is a good starter set
http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-MPXS-08.html

Enter lp101 as a coupon code for an extra 10% off. If you do end up with a cutaway, definately get the 5 pin.

Cheers.

by **YellowSnow** » 6 Feb 2006 21:01

Thanks man, I appreciate it. As of right now, all I have to pick with is a set of jigglers. I bought a kwikset lock from Wal Mart today, but I can't get any of the jigglers to fit in because of the side wards (I think it's the wards, remember I'm a noob. It's the zig-zag part on the face of the plug). It won't allow the jigglers to fit in. It does say on the box that these locks are 'pick-resistant'. Hmm. On Friday I'm getting a set of picks, so hopefully I'll have more to work with then. As of now, I don't think these jigglers will be able to accomplish much.

by **Wade** » 7 Feb 2006 0:14

jigglers are for car locks which have mostly flat keyways that the jiggler will fit in. not for pin tumblers. just about all thats gonna fit in that lock that will help you open it is, a key with the same keyway, or picks (which is what you should use)

if you havent already (which it sounds like you havent) read the mit guide to lockpicking, you should do so before posting again (for your own sake my friend)

anyways, good luck and stop trying to fit the jiggler in the kwikset

(im schizophrenic)

by **Eyes_Only** » 7 Feb 2006 16:55

I was once going to buy a practice set like that but to me, the amount they're charging for something that simple didnt seem justified to me. I bought a small PanaVise hobby vise instead. Mounts well on the corner of my desk, will hold almost any lock and its way cheaper.

by **illusion** » 7 Feb 2006 16:59

I used to mount them, but picking the locks in your hand is just far more convenient.

by **YellowSnow** » 7 Feb 2006 21:38

Alright, I got through almost all of the MIT guide, and my eyes are starting to get tired of reading. I actually found my 5 piece set from Southern Ordinance, that I got years ago. I can pick a 3-pin Craftsman Padlock pretty easily, but the 5-pin one is giving me troubles. It seems as if all the pins are set, but it won't unlock. So when that happens, I'll lighten up on the tension and let one or two pins come back down. Then I'll get them set again, and it won't budge. Anyone know why this is happening?

by **devildog** » 7 Feb 2006 22:47

Security pins, probably spools.

hee hee, yellow snow....'Watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow...'
or something to that effect; Frank Zappa.

by **YellowSnow** » 7 Feb 2006 23:00

Ahhh shoot. I glanced over the rest of the MIT guide, and I saw those types of pins. I shall read that now.

by **Wade** » 8 Feb 2006 2:28

there you go :roll:

by **Mars** » 1 Apr 2007 17:04

Chucklz stated that this is a ripoff - It is expensive but just wondered whether you think that the idea behind it is good - ignoring the price - whether to work up from one pin to 5 is thought to be a good learning technique.

Thanks

by **UWSDWF** » 1 Apr 2007 17:17

just buy a deadbolt and follow d_b's guide

"school in a box"

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