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Finding Combinations

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Finding Combinations

Postby dwkbb » 8 Feb 2006 22:37

I just want to pass on something I learned about finding the combinations to Master Locks. I have used the method described in several places here and elsewhere to get the correct combination by first determining the third number. The usual method is to find the possible third numbers and the one with the last digit which is different from the others is the correct one. However, I recently aquired 6 locks which are used in my daughter's school (They weren't stolen, they where given to her by her coach because the combinations were unknown). They are the type with a keyway in the back. I found that the above rule didn't apply. There were four possible third numbers and they all had the same last digit. This meant that I had to try many more combinations, but I eventually got them open. For example, the possible 3rd numbers on one lock were 9, 19, 29, and 39. 29 ended up being the right one. This number really was not at the mid-point of the sticking point and I thought it was a decoy. I guessed that it could be the third number on the basis of the last digit being the same as the others.

I don't know if this is any new revelation, but I thought it might prevent someone from giving up on a lock because it doesn't follow the popular rule.
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Postby dwkbb » 8 Feb 2006 23:22

I looked through some papers I had saved a long time ago and found this site which might also be helpful. http://www.geocities.com/masterunlocked/index1.html
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Postby devnill » 9 Feb 2006 1:46

i found that a few months ago on anoother page. it works pretty well, but takes awhile to get it to work everytime, but is a reall nice trick. Look for the "masterlock widget" online; its a nice little app that will solve the first 2 #'s for you. If you are looking for speed in opening, shims are the best bet though.
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Postby dwkbb » 9 Feb 2006 8:40

I have two programs for my PDA which calculate the possible 1st and 2nd numbers. They can be found at Palmfreeware.com (I usually do a Google search for palm freeware because I don't recall the exact site address). The programs are Skeleton Key and PM Master. They are very handy. However, sometimes pen and paper and a little more time is required.[/u]
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Postby illusion » 9 Feb 2006 9:15

I'll give it a go on my Zire later :)
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Postby dwkbb » 9 Feb 2006 18:18

I have to make a correction. The programs are Skeleton Key and PMaster, not PM Master. Sorry if this caused any confusion. The site to find them is: http://www.freewarepalm.com
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Postby benr2424 » 12 Feb 2006 13:06

So take me through this again...
1) Get a master padlock.
2) Pull or push the shackle.
3) Start at 0 and turn to the left
4) Find the range where the dial sticks (this particular one- sticks 2-5)

Then what?

And what after you find the third number? How do you find the rest?

Will this work on master locker-locks also?

Thanks
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