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just for fun, a little conundrum

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby security_lock » 15 Feb 2006 13:28

What wrote:Would a magnet work?

no, the pins are made of brass, not a magnetic metal.[/quote]

Too bad I never paid much attention in Science class...........

Maybe you could stick the needle in some kind of sticky wax to lift the pins....
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Postby horsefeathers » 15 Feb 2006 14:08

All the pins are under spring pressure - the 'key pins' (i call them bottom pins usually) are all pushed out at their maximum anyway and only stopped by the profile of the keyway. All are at, or below, the shearline to begin with (they have to be) and it is the top pins that are pushed below the shearline. Inserting the corect key merely pushes the top pins back to the shearline against the spring pressure, (not past it or the bottom 'key' pins then block the shearline), so that the 'key' pins sit at the shearline also. A shear is formed between the cylinder and plug. In short, you can't pull the 'key' pins any further out/down/up than they are when at rest.

Unless the wise amongst you know another secret........

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Postby speero » 8 Mar 2006 15:03

tried it out i had a little problem when i put the torque in i think i melted the freeze to quickly any tips?
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Postby Shrub » 8 Mar 2006 18:02

horsefeathers wrote:All the pins are under spring pressure - the 'key pins' (i call them bottom pins usually) are all pushed out at their maximum anyway and only stopped by the profile of the keyway. All are at, or below, the shearline to begin with (they have to be) and it is the top pins that are pushed below the shearline. Inserting the corect key merely pushes the top pins back to the shearline against the spring pressure, (not past it or the bottom 'key' pins then block the shearline), so that the 'key' pins sit at the shearline also. A shear is formed between the cylinder and plug. In short, you can't pull the 'key' pins any further out/down/up than they are when at rest.

Unless the wise amongst you know another secret........

regards

wayne


I think the intension was that if the pins had been pushed down or into the chambers and then frozen the bottom pins/key pins would need to be pulled up somehow back to the rest position and the springs would be made redundant.
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Postby illusion » 8 Mar 2006 19:15

Steel pins could be lifted with a magnet surely?

Unless they are merely called steel for some reason???

Of course you're FUBAR if you try and use a magnet on brass...
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