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by rayman452 » 15 Feb 2006 18:51
We've all seen them, they're the locks you see on lockeres at your swimming pool. The locks that have the orange knob and you put a quarter to store your stuff in. The key is flat and has like a jagged line going down the centre. How do those work? Is it horizontal pins which fit in and then it'll move them to the proper height like tubular lock? Or is it completly different?
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by sublime progie » 15 Feb 2006 19:41
I have never cut one open before (obviously) but i think the pins stick out from the sides and just move up and down to the proper position to fit the key, they have these at the post office where i use to live and every time i used one, i would think about how i could pick it, unfortunately they are all not mine.  i should buy the post office!! anyways, i hope that answers you question.
i bet they arent too hard to pick because the pins would lock in place. you could probably mod a key out of a regular key to work. just my thoughts though i wouldnt know for sure
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by rayman452 » 15 Feb 2006 20:03
It doesn't look like it could be picked with conventional lock picks though. THe key is double sidded, and the pattern would make it hard to duplicate for a bump key or even to pick. THe way the thing is cut, it also seems it would be hard to get a tourque wrench in there. Anyone ever get their hands on one?
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by linty » 15 Feb 2006 21:37
i was just looking in one of those today, it was more or less like the engraving keys used on bmw's but single sided. so basically a sort of wafer lock but with two rows of wafers, or split wafers if you will. since it's not a pin tumbler bumping is not really an option, but aside from that it looked like it would be more or less as easy to pick as one would expect from a 10 cut wafer lock, which is to say altogether do-able.
i didn't really get to play with it for long though,
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by illusion » 15 Feb 2006 21:47
Lasertrack lock I would guess from your description. ASSA make them for commercial use, and I would guess the lock you are refering to, to be one.
Not 100% sure if it's ASSA who make them however. 
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by Shrub » 15 Feb 2006 21:49
Dont pick locks you dont own,
Dont disscuss locks like laser track locks in the open forum as they are regarded as a security lock.
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by sublime progie » 15 Feb 2006 21:50
sorry, i didnt mean bump key, i meant like a rake cut out of the key sort of. but i bet it could be done with a pick pretty easily if it is layed out the way i am picturing it
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by rayman452 » 16 Feb 2006 10:15
So get a picture of what I'm talking about (gotta go to the pool then...oh well, those bikini's will cheer me up) and if it is a laser track key, put it in the advanced section? I'm more intersted on how those work, rather then how to pick it.
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by Gundanium » 16 Feb 2006 12:29
This sounds pretty interesting, I want to know a bit about them, I know how those magnetic locks work and how to freak out the sensors at motels, well I dont' know how, but my lock smithing course is starting to cover stuff, I kinda wanna know about these laser locks.
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by Wolfman » 18 Feb 2006 10:31
ummm. Could you show us a picture of the keyway? I'm not a locksmith, or anything anywhere near, but from what you are saying, I think your dealing with a warded lock. I may be wrong. When I first encountered a warded lock I thought it was some kind of wafer lock, then when the wards (the things I mistook as wafers) dident move, I thought that the pins must be set between the barriers (wards).
It's true that you cant open a warded lock with regular picks. Websites sell warded picksets to open these types of locks but with a little practice you can use a PAPERCLIP to open most of them.
I carry 2 paper clips for this perpose:
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A warded lock is nothing more than a lever at the back of the cam with pieces of metal that block your key if its the wrong one. So you just slide your pick all the way to the back and feel around on the side for a lever. Once you find this catch the front of it with your "pick" and twist as to push it around (like a key would)
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by Chucklz » 18 Feb 2006 12:47
Not a warded lock. Commonly referred to as a Bell lock. I have very little further information though.
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by Gear Head » 18 Feb 2006 18:01
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