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by Stinger » 25 Feb 2004 6:44
Have any of you outside US ever had any problems ordering from the States? I just ordered from southord to Denmark, and now I'm worried about the pack being extra expensive.. The price could double as from what I'v heard. But then again - how does southord pack the bags? What does the return lable and Customs descriptions say?
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by Stinger » 25 Feb 2004 6:50
i was thinking - could it be that soutord includes the taxes and such in the price? Afterall, the price they gave me must be final.. Anyone?
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by technik » 25 Feb 2004 6:51
nah, you should be ok. It says that they are 'tools' its pretty low profile. You should really have checked your countrys/ areas laws on this sort of equipment. (CHeck FAQ and LAWS posts to clear this up.) I live in AUS and I recieve my orders no probs, as southord is a very reliable source. I am pretty certain you'll get it though. What did you order? I'd say some things (pickset, small tools) would pass through easier than say a pick gun or electric pick, because of size and comlexity of product. just a few shaped pieces of steel (manual pick tools) would pass through easy though i think.
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by Stinger » 25 Feb 2004 8:11
Thanks alot mate.
i ordered a manual pickgun and a 5 pieces pickset.
I think it's prette low profile anyway, are the guns very heavy?
If it just says tools, I gues nothing would be wrong with a box of that size.
how fast do you get your stuff?
I ordered pr. visa card, yesterday and has recieved a mail (not the shipping date though) But how fast is normal?
Tanks
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by marso » 25 Feb 2004 8:45
Stinger, one other thing. If you are that concerned contact your customs office and southords they will give you all the info you need to know.
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by Stinger » 25 Feb 2004 10:01
Yeah - thanks.
have anyone (outside US) ever ended up paying more than what the original bill said?
And again, how are their delivery times?
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by jason » 25 Feb 2004 11:40
I bought my first proper pickset from Southord. I live in the UK, the order got to me within a fortnight.
They labelled it as "tools" and it got through without any problems - owning picks is legal over here. The price was the same (you have to allow for exchange rate, taxes and postage though because that upped the price).
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by marso » 25 Feb 2004 16:07
Stinger, from all the posts I have read, I have not once seen someone talk about customs duty or stamp duty. Normally they either turn up or not, or they pay a heap for shipping.
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by Hustler » 25 Feb 2004 19:01
Stinger wrote:I just ordered from southord to Denmark, and now I'm worried about the pack being extra expensive..
I'm also from Denmark.
I'll try to explain the danish duty system:
1) I'm guessing you order total is about $70
2) Add shipping: $13.50
3) Calculate order total: $83.50
4) Add VAT (25% of order total): $20.88
5) Add duty (varies - usually around 10% of order total): $8.35
This means you have to pay about $29.23 with a current exchange rate of 5.9 DKR to 1 USD : DKR 172.50
Of course the danish postal service charges you an extra DKR 50 for their "service". So expect to pay the nice mailman around DKR 230,-
By the way, I would love to hear about your experience with getting your stuff through customs! Particularly about how much attention you get from the authorities... Lockpicking equipment is legal for civilians to posess in Denmark - I just hope you didn't order any of their knives!
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by Luke » 26 Feb 2004 0:46
Pickguns get through customs without any problem, as well as handtools, i emailed AUSSIE customs and they said there was nothing against picks or pickguns coming through the mail, South ord is pretty slow somtimes, usually took them 3 days to process my order. www.lockpicks.com is better in my opinion rang wise and time wise as well as price.
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by donoska » 26 Feb 2004 1:08
i am from canada and i ordered muy picks from lockpicks.com yesterday and they have been shipped today. I am wondering if anyone from canada ordered from them and how much it took them? I read that in canada its illegal to have stuff like this. Hopefully they wont open it. I ordered a dvd a while back and yesterday when i recieved it, it said that customs when through it. wish me luck with the picks.
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by Stinger » 26 Feb 2004 3:49
Hustler- Thanks alot.
Still waiting for the shippingmail. Ordered two days ago.
No knifes, i would never have got that. I was thinking that the price might rise, but I belived that the 13-14$ I payed for shipping and insurence would do the trick.
Your math was quite right, my total price was 78$ about 500kr and I they have yet to be taken out of my acount. But what about the other 200kr for postDK, VAT and customs? Do I pay them when the mailman is at my door or what else?
Thanks
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by marso » 26 Feb 2004 16:18
Hustler, quite the opposite. I enjoy seeing how other countries operate. Do you have any links to the customs/mail laws for prohibited goods? Are lockpicks included on this list in Denmark?
I only suggest checking with customs and the authorities because I have not seen other people from Denmark posting and when you are talking about possibly breaking laws you do not want to give out advise adhoc.
Stinger when you recieve your goods can you please give us a run down on how long the order took, how much you paid where, what they labelled on the bag etc..
Btw what part of Denmark you guys from?
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by Hustler » 26 Feb 2004 22:20
marso wrote:Hustler, quite the opposite. I enjoy seeing how other countries operate. Do you have any links to the customs/mail laws for prohibited goods? Are lockpicks included on this list in Denmark?
I only suggest checking with customs and the authorities because I have not seen other people from Denmark posting and when you are talking about possibly breaking laws you do not want to give out advise adhoc.
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Btw what part of Denmark you guys from?
Marso, you're quite correct. When giving advice on activities that might be criminal, you should always take great care. And it's always better to be safe than sorry.
In Denmark, anything that isn't explicitly made illegal (by code of law) is legal. If the australian legal system is based on british common law as I suspect, it might be different where you are.
I do have a link to a list of prohibited goods, but I doubt it would do you much good, since the information is in danish only. I cannot find the information in english, or any other language for that matter.
Lockpicks are NOT on the list though. Quick overview: Fireworks, live animals and animal products (food), pharmaceuticals, narcotics, precursors for narcotics, plants, endangered animals and plants, weapons, ammunition, explosives, counterfeit goods.
In Denmark, you don't need any official license or approval to possess lockpicking equipment or work as a locksmith. The tools can always be used as prima facie evidence of course.
BTW: I'm from Funen - I don't know about Stinger. But Denmark is not that large, unless you count our dependant territories...
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by cormu » 29 Feb 2004 3:37
Well in finland I have had meny orders through from south ord and have only had one order stopped. Another large order was sent through UPS as the vaslue was so high with the UPS i had to pay the Alv / VAT of 22% on the value the value had to be accurate because of insurance costs , No questions from autorities about that .
The order from south ord that got stopped was throwing knives. As I am training with them in jitsu and belong to a club I was not worried about explaining them it they got stopped and they did ,
on the packet was tools $10  and it was marked a gift, The customes were not concered that they were throwing knifes wahtso ever they just didnt beleve the customns lable and demaded how much i paid for them ... i said it was a free gift and then everything was ok
So I would not be too worried unless u know they are illigal only worry is how much u have to fork out to tax 
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